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@davetroy@toad.socialSignificant evidence suggests that anti-Tesla protests that encourage physical violence are being driven by bad actors aiming to accelerate violence and martial law. The public should engage in economic boycott and anti-Tesla information operations, but AVOID physical engagement.
Again, this appears to be a setup. Media covering this are welcome to reach out for a briefing at davetroy.69 on Signal. Thanks.
@davetroy Saw this play out in Minneapolis with the George Floyd riots.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536
@puppethead @davetroy
@burnitdown
The idea that this kind of politicized sabotage & destruction is secretly a government conspiracy is typically spread by liberals, who are against damaging capitalist property in the first place. This kind of copjacketing literally got Black militants sent to prison during the 2020 uprisings. Please stop spreading it.
https://north-shore.info/2024/10/04/not-liking-someone-doesnt-mean-theyre-a-cop-on-bad-jacketing/
@davetroy Everything the current administration is doing is accelerationist.They want people to be mad enough to protest so Nero can send the Praetorians into the streets against the people.This has been the plan since day one. The #TeslaTakedown folks are not the bad actors here. I'm order to take down an oligarch we must respond by all available means.They've over played their hands and made themselves vulnerable. Strike while the iron is hot.Turn the masses against them #Debillionaritization
It doesn't matter if we protest or not, the brown shirts are coming for us either way. I, for one, plan on being hung as wolf, not a sheep.
@davetroy @ahermitforhire There may well be bad actors and false flags, but wringing your hands about “violence” is quisling behavior. The real, pervasive, and escalating violence that Musk et al are inflicting on society -on *you*- vastly exceeds any small scale property damages. To torch a Tesla is self defense. The line about “it’s going to accelerate martial law” is actual bad-actor behavior, doing the police state’s work for them.
@Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire personally i prefer marksmanship over mob power but hey that's style
@lritter @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire
6.5 Creedmoor or .30-06? Asking for friends.
@stevewfolds @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire i uhm 
i only play hitman on my computer.
@lritter @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire
Started shooting as a kid about ‘58. 20,000 rounds later, hearing aids. I decided that memories were better than dreams in ‘96. Took PS2 games into real life, Grand Turismo led to racing driving schools in ‘99 & kart track mgr. KillZone3 led to competition shooting in ‘11 & a range officer. Novice level participation in many activities increases my understanding. Currently learning guitar.
@stevewfolds @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire when i was 8 years old i got a computer and was happy for the first time. i extended my computering, which quickly expanded to more computering, followed by even more computering, and now, 36 years later, everything's computer
@lritter @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire
My first computer exposure was TTYs in the math department’s basement running Basic in ‘67. Hobby kit radios & amplifier electronics set me up for a desktop kit in ‘80 age 32. Last job was on computers in the basement of another math department in ‘03.
@stevewfolds it's been a while then! been playing with an Amiga 500 first; then a 286, with GW-BASIC on it. then came Doom (modding), for which i got a 386. My household had an Atari ST with Cubase on it and a Korg M1 that i noodled with. then came Quake (modding), for which i got a 486. I started tracking music on PC. then found the demoscene. got a Pentium. learned Pascal, C/C++, Python; in '03 first job as a coder. '13 my wife and I started our own indie game project and it's still going
@stevewfolds now i'm building compilers. i'm wading knee deep through turing tarpits.
@stevewfolds hehe. one can get so lost in that part alone. so i started from a lisp, and then gradually added more convenience to get rid of most of the parentheses, and modernize the syntax a little. i haven't made any big changes in that area in 8 years which is a good sign.
@lritter Worked for a lisp programmer who dismissed everything else as “trivial”. :)
@stevewfolds@mastodon.world @lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place And awk, the Holy Trinity 
@stevewfolds@mastodon.world @lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place I learned sed/awk/yacc in college in the compiler design course sequence that was the lead-in to the operating systems design sequence.
@stevewfolds nice. my mum did her first bookkeeping in BASIC on a Sharp that looked not unlike this one. but i think it had all the letters.
@lritter Carpentry work for architects who were beginning to use computers were impressed that I knew more. It led to a cold call on a Friday telling me to show up for work Monday. Construction job costing accounting in Basic on Z80s, ‘84-5. The software mashed Basic’s floating point math into 64 KB. Some of the 100+ customers were pissed that they couldn’t exceed $9,999.99 in bonuses each quarter.
@stevewfolds that was a good bookkeeping computer. it had limits!
@stevewfolds @lritter @Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire weaponized DJI Mavic seem to be the preferred in Ukrain, Syria, Sudan, and for M23 in Congo. cheap, easy to learn multi role uav , and you can get uprated chips and a sierra or hilux next generation technical launcher if you contact good folks in Ghana. recycle, repurpose, revolt.
- love, janessa
@Moss @davetroy @ahermitforhire how many times must we learn the same lesson
Like to use this article for explaining why this kind of thing is shitty:
https://north-shore.info/2024/10/04/not-liking-someone-doesnt-mean-theyre-a-cop-on-bad-jacketing/
@Moss agreed in principle. Don't comply in advance. @davetroy @ahermitforhire
@davetroy VERY LIKELY
After all the Tesla lots are insured -- so far. Some agents provocateurs will be caught, by real cops I hope.
Don't wreck yourself burning Teslas, that's just foolish, more aggro for firefighters, more air pollution
@RevPudDudley @davetroy It also, perhaps counter-intuitively, actually HELPS Tesler, and by extension Elmo, by making them look like victims of irrational, unfair, and excessive violence. It engenders sympathy among those who have not decided, who are the much larger demographic -- and, statistically, much more determinative about what end results will be. Violence of any kind should only always be an absolute last resort, when all else has failed and nothing is left to lose.
@RevPudDudley @davetroy
Wishing that normal people doing sabotage get caught by law enforcement, therefore harmed, is evil.
@RevPudDudley @davetroy hoping real cops, whose unions endorsed Trump and who are more likely to be those alleged agents provocateurs, are going to arrest people ... 
@davetroy I would like to see this significant evidence.
@rimu
Same. Something smells off there.
@davetroy I've been thinking about the insurance money muxrat is probably making by these protests. If every burned car makes more in insurance than if they were bought, I think he'd be willing to tank Tesla and create new money grabs with his insurance money.
@MamaLake @davetroy I find it likely that musk is past money as ultimate goal. He does not care, look at twitter.
The ultimate goal is control. (I.e. keeping your money despite angry masses)
They might be behind this, but with the goal of martial law, not money. Not familiar with US martial law, but I guess it's good for plutocrats.
@MamaLake nothing to do with insurance money or money.
@davetroy please post evidence encountered
@davetroy people are doing this because they don’t have access to 2000 pound bunker busters.
@davetroy
Think a minute. The brand is toxic, they can't sell them, they are probably insured, 
... with the added bonus of creating their own version of the Reichstag Fire. Elmo is doing this himself.
Destroying the property of the oligarchs when they are dismantling your democracy is a restrained response.
The conservatives do not need an excuse to accelerate their plans, they immediately jumped to deporting people who committed no crime. It's time to let 'decorum' go, neoliberalism is dead. Now is an era where the the rich must be reminded that they exist with permission from the people, not by some divine right. Tearing up the social contract has material consequences.
@contrasocial @davetroy all of this !!
@sensitivityi @contrasocial @davetroy Violent collapse of empires and god kings is ordained by god. for instance: read Joshua and Judges . We wouldnt be free without the Sea People.
Tear down DC and rename it Antifa. topple Lincoln monument and replace with George Soros. we are overdue for reset. dont wait til angry canadians do it for you.
#scortchedearth
#terminatetrump
with extreme prejudice
> restrained response
fwiw folks on bsky were pointing out how the trump administration has checked off nearly all the points mentioned as george iii's impugned misconduct in the declaration of independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
the people who wrote the USA's constitution were literally killing people over this behaviour
@davetroy the setup continues, now from the Oval Office.
Seeing posts like this on Reddit get 34k upvotes
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/oTEx44gOip
Such an obvious attempt to provoke the left into a frothing rage ON BEHALF of the Tesla Vandals. It’s working.
@davetroy the narrative trap is so clear.
This framing puts the left in the position of defending the vandals actions, which legitimizes the violence as genuinely coming “from our side” - when it is not.
It also makes it impossible to talk about how these political subversives really ARE terrorists (No one can call them that though because TRUMP did)
It is such obvious liberal rage bait & manipulation. How can we be this easy to control? This is all just depressing.
@davetroy behave, with a frown though!
@davetroy Yup, the first #Tesla torched by someone who wanted #MartialLaw was lit on January 1st!
#Resist non-violently. For now.
@davetroy
I should have seen that. It's right out of the MAGA playbook. Lie, cheat, fight dirty.
@davetroy Woah there buddy, "Physical Violence" is defined as violence inflicted on another person. Property damage or vandalism is not #PhysicalViolence
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/physical-violence
@davetroy could you share some of that reporting or evidence that you are seeing?
@davetroy Another commenter said it, but agree this is a MAGA setup just like George Floyd protests
@davetroy also insurance fraud, with public money under that terrorism insurance law.
@davetroy Let's see this "significant evidence"
Care to cite any of this apparently plentiful evidence? How does it explain #Tesla vandalism in #Canada? In reality, this sabotage is having far more effect on our leaders than protests ever will.
"Significant evidence suggests that anti-Tesla protests that encourage physical violence are being driven by bad actors aiming to accelerate violence and martial law."