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Clay T<p>"Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now"</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDbCiNMmorw" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=aDbCiNMmorw</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://home.social/@markreckons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>markreckons</span></a></span> in conversation with former attorney Richard Greene (the “Civics Dean”) explaining the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/disqualification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disqualification</span></a> under <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thAmendmentSectionThree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thAmendmentSectionThree</span></a> including a discussion of Trump v. Anderson and Congress’ role under the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/ElectoralCountAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElectoralCountAct</span></a> (as amended 2022).</p><p>My take-away from the interview: Thompson &amp; Greene agree that it’s not going to happen: i.e., Trump will be inaugurated on <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Jan20" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jan20</span></a> , but <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Democrats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Democrats</span></a> should act on their Constitutional duty and object to his Electoral votes on the grounds that the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/PresidentElect" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PresidentElect</span></a> is an adjudicated <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/insurrectionist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insurrectionist</span></a></p><p>See the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/JessicaDenson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JessicaDenson</span></a> led <a href="https://nowmarch.org/plan-your-trip/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">nowmarch.org/plan-your-trip/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> for details of the peaceful protest to be held in <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/WashingtonDC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WashingtonDC</span></a> on January 3-5</p><p>The photograph is of <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/poet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>poet</span></a> Amanda Gorman reading her <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/poem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>poem</span></a> “The Hill we Climb” at the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Inauguration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Inauguration</span></a> of <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/President" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>President</span></a> Joseph R. Biden, United States <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Capitol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Capitol</span></a> January 20, 2021. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thNow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thNow</span></a></p>
Clay T<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@heidilifeldman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>heidilifeldman</span></a></span> </p><p>Thanks, Professor. I was going to ask you if there was a similar article on the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thAmendmentSectionThree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thAmendmentSectionThree</span></a> but written post Trump v. Anderson, but have already found one - also by Baude &amp; Paulsen - written post Anderson and forthcoming in the Harvard Law Review. "Sweeping Section Three under the Rug: A Comment on Trump v. Anderson" is available here:</p><p><a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4952397" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf</span><span class="invisible">m?abstract_id=4952397</span></a></p><p>A boost from you would be helpful if you think it appropriate.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thNow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thNow</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/RIPJimmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RIPJimmy</span></a></p>
Clay T<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@yuhasz01" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>yuhasz01</span></a></span> </p><p>As I noted originally, there *is* a growing body of legal opinion that views the now <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/PresidentElect" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PresidentElect</span></a> to be Constitutionally <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/disqualified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disqualified</span></a> from holding office. As might be expected, this body of opinion is now being added to: some of the opinion is as current as today where, in a YouTube discussion with Brian Tyler Cohen, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner re-states his view that <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> has been adjudicated as an insurrectionist by: i) the state of Colorado; ii) <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Congress" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Congress</span></a> (in the second <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/impeachment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>impeachment</span></a> trial); iii) the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Jan6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jan6</span></a> Committee (1). <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Insurrection" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Insurrection</span></a> – &amp; not treason – is the relevant yardstick for <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thAmendmentSectionThree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thAmendmentSectionThree</span></a></p><p>Cohen &amp; Kirschner also discuss a Dec 26 article by Evan A. Davis &amp; David M. Schulte (“Congress has the Power to Stop Trump from Taking Office…”) where legal scholars Davis &amp; Schulte argue that despite the implications of Trump v. Anderson (the Colorado case in <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/SCOTUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCOTUS</span></a>), Trump is still disqualified due to legal precedent &amp; his Electoral College votes may be objected to in Congress on that basis under the Electoral Count Act (2).</p><p>I further note that there are other mechanisms available for Congress to ‘trigger’ disqualification (or to “remove such disability”) under <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/AmendmentXIV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AmendmentXIV</span></a> (see Kaitlyn Bird, “King Trump is not Inevitable” (3), Jessica Denson’s YouTube channel (4) &amp; bibliography of legal opinion (5)): mechanisms that also fall within SCOTUS’ determination in Trump v. Anderson.</p><p>I’m not a US citizen but I care about the country (to the point that I wrote a book about it) &amp; this is my reading of the up-to-date (as of today) legal thinking on the left. I still think that you have an ‘out’: but that this ‘out’ is going to expire on <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/InaugurationDay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InaugurationDay</span></a> After that, all bets are off.</p><p>(1) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5-s6NIcys" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=XI5-s6NIcys</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>(2) <a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/5055171-constitution-insurrection-trump-disqualification/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">thehill.com/opinion/congress-b</span><span class="invisible">log/5055171-constitution-insurrection-trump-disqualification/</span></a><br>(3) <a href="https://www.damemagazine.com/2024/12/03/king-trump-is-not-inevitable/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">damemagazine.com/2024/12/03/ki</span><span class="invisible">ng-trump-is-not-inevitable/</span></a><br>(4) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JessicaDenson07/videos" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/@JessicaDenson07/v</span><span class="invisible">ideos</span></a><br>(5) <a href="https://nowmarch.org/legal-authority/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">nowmarch.org/legal-authority/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/DonaldJTrump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DonaldJTrump</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/RuleOfLaw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RuleOfLaw</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thNow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thNow</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/RIPJimmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RIPJimmy</span></a></p>
Clay T<p>The text of the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thAmendmentSectionThree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thAmendmentSectionThree</span></a> of the US <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Constitution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Constitution</span></a> states that:</p><p>No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.</p><p>On <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Jan6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jan6</span></a> 2021 the whole world saw then <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/POTUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>POTUS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> incite an <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/insurrection" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insurrection</span></a>. There is a growing body of legal opinion that views the now <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/PresidentElect" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PresidentElect</span></a> to be Constitutionally <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/disqualified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disqualified</span></a> from holding office (see <a href="https://nowmarch.org/legal-authority/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">nowmarch.org/legal-authority/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> )</p><p>Led by <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/JessicaDenson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JessicaDenson</span></a> there are events planned for January 3-5, 2025 in <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/WashingtonDC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WashingtonDC</span></a> (see <a href="https://nowmarch.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">nowmarch.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> )</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Qe4h7KQ7c" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=d5Qe4h7KQ7c</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/USPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/DonaldJTrump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DonaldJTrump</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/RuleOfLaw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RuleOfLaw</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/14thNow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>14thNow</span></a></p>