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Hey folks! You probably heard that Discord is speeding up toward enshittification (if not, long story short: public company soon), and maybe you've been wanting out. (You probably *should* at least create a plan B asap even if you go on using Discord as your "main base", just to be safe.)

We did a bit of research with a friend and tested the two most popular alternatives (Matrix/Element and Revolt), here's the write-up of our tests and opinions: legaosaure-stuff.neocities.org

We did our best to keep it focused on what a not especially techie Discord user would feel useful, and we hope it can help people feel more at ease with at least one option! Feel free to share around =)

(Also feel free to reach out if you find typos, broken links, or outright mistakes. We did our best but it's more than one paragraph of writing so there's probably something ^^)

legaosaure-stuff.neocities.orgDiscord alternatives: test of Matrix/Element and Revolt
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@signalapp As a supporter of #Signal, it is important to point out a key detail: Signal's own code is #OpenSource, but Signal uses multiple #proprietary libraries from #Google. Those cannot be scrutinized since the source code is not open. We believe Signal should offer an actual open source version, and are ready to help. This exists already in the fork fosstodon.org/@MollyIM Also, apps like #Element #Threema #Wire are #FOSS, and have #ReproducibleBuilds on @fdroidorg #FDroid

FosstodonMolly (@mollyim@fosstodon.org)52 Posts, 30 Following, 1.57K Followers · Born from Signal, built for freedom. Molly is an independent Signal fork for Android, with a strong focus on security and hardening. #mollyim #signal #signalapp

Question to the #Matrix people out there. As far as I understand it "Element Calls" is the new Voip standard for Matrix, implemented in #ElementX on Android.

This means that when I use ElementX I can call other ElementX clients. My #Element desktop client doesn't receive the calls and I can't call a ElementX client from the desktop. I don't know the status on iOS as there is no such thing as ElementX as far as I know.

Is there somewhere a overview about the implementation status / roadmap?

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@ts-new
There are tons of Matrix messengers, even there element a.d elementx, schildi, fluffychat, neochat and many many Servers.

Matrix is one of the few systems I know I can directly interact with desktop, videochat.

It is used by govs and military, so there is their need it remains save and secure.

#Signal#Briar#XMPP

ElementX is *so* much faster than the current stable versions of Element and its various soft forks (I'm currently using SchildiChat).

As I've said before, I'm guessing it will take another 6-12 months for all the Matrix 2.0 upgrades to be rolled out and fully stabilized in the various app and server software. But if ElementX performance is anything to go by, the new and improved Matrix ecosystem will be well worth an open-minded test.

I said it before on Mastodon. I'm reposting this again. Comparing #DeltaChat and #Matrix together, if you want hassle free and consistent messenger for private #E2EE chats, don't go for Matrix. DeltaChat is way better.

However, if you want something like a public forum, or a public chatroom, don't go for DeltaChat. Matrix is way better suited for that. And DeltaChat does not support public groups at all. In DeltaChat groups, there is no admin or moderator and everyone have got permission to remove or add the others.

I think I have to write a longer post on my personal blog about these two, comparing them together.

PS: Another Matrix encryption bug few minutes ago triggered repost of this.