Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bsd.network/@brynet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>brynet</span></a></span> personally, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WMI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WMI</span></a> is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> strategy to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>-ize functions that should belong into open ABIs like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ACPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ACPI</span></a>! </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#History" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#His</span><span class="invisible">tory</span></a></p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>theverge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge/tech-news-e3qmqbb8z" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tech-news-theverge</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114408031693623764" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">yeah...</a></p><p>Meanwhile I recommend migrating to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and espechally classic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>! </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> fucked up big time, but TBH it was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> doing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> instead that killed it!</li></ul>
Robert Link<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spam</span></a> I don't care about a bluesky enabling app. Why is my feed suddenly blowing up over "SwILL"? (added a w just because)</p><p>Looks to me the the money at bluesky has taken official am at mastodon. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,</span><span class="invisible">_extend,_and_extinguish</span></a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mstdn.ca/@deborahh" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Deborah Hartmann Preuss, pcc 🇨🇦</a> Embrace-Extend-Extinguish.<br><br>Embrace = they join the Fediverse.<br><br>Extend = they introduce stuff that's non-standard and not really compatible with what already exists. Everything else has to adopt that non-standard stuff or risk becoming incompatible. Since they're one of the biggest players or <em>the</em> biggest player, they can get away with it.<br><br>Threads has yet to do this. Mastodon has been doing it all the time.<br><br>Extinguish = They decide they don't care for interoperability anymore. They become incompatible with everything else. As big as they are, they get away with it. But they basically kill everything else off because all that "everything else" can hardly survive without being connected to that one big player.<br><br>Mastodon has more power to do this than Threads because Threads is a late addition to the Fediverse, Threads isn't even really welcome in the Fediverse, only a tiny fraction of Threads even federates, and I guess that to more people than not, <em>Mastodon</em> is the Fediverse.<br><br>(Public reply because the original post is public. I'm on Hubzilla and not on Mastodon, and on Hubzilla, all replies always have the exact same permissions as the original post. Permission changes within a thread are not supported.)<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EEE</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://hostux.social/@johentsch" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Johannes Hentschel</a><br><blockquote>Their interest is hegemony.</blockquote><br>They won't be able to achieve that. For that, they'd all have to join forces. Instead, the big players would rather bash each other's heads in.<br><br>If Zuckerberg wanted to buy out the Fediverse through the SWF and assume full control over it, that'd go hard against what Flipboard wants, what Ghost wants, what <em>Mastodon</em> wants etc.<br><br>If you think Zuck and Gargron will join forces in EEE'ing the Fediverse, I have a bridge to sell you. If Zuck wants to EEE the Fediverse, this includes Mastodon which is why everyone panics. But Gargron himself wants to EEE the Fediverse, too. Mastodon users don't notice it, but everyone else does, from Misskey to (streams). And if he could, that'd include assuming indirect control over Threads by forcing Mastodon's proprietary, non-standard solutions upon it.<br><br>Write.as, maintainer of WriteFreely, is a supporter of the SWF, too. WriteFreely is basically one of the Fediverse's alternatives to Medium. Notice how Medium itself is a supporter. Medium won't try to build a monopoly and get rid of WriteFreely through the SWF if WriteFreely itself has a saying in this. And so does Automattic because Medium competes against WordPress.<br><br>Mastodon vs Write.as + Medium + Automattic = "The Fediverse is for microblogging, we won't support more than a tiny subset of HTML, and the rest of the Fediverse has to adjust" vs "Everything in the Fediverse must support full HTML rendering for Article-type objects."<br><br>And the SWF won't grant voting power according to how much money someone invests into it. Meta won't be able to out-vote everyone else by pumping a billion into the SWF. If that was possible, @<a href="https://cosocial.ca/@evan" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Evan Prodromou</a>, as the very founder of the SWF, would have no voting power at all.<br><br>Lastly, these are the <strong>supporters</strong>. The financial backers. Not the only members and even less the only members the SWF will ever have. It's just kind of difficult for a Fediverse project with nothing but one or two spare-time devs behind it to join the SWF.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike McCue</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MetaPlatforms" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">MetaPlatforms</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Threads" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Threads</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Automattic" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Automattic</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=WordPress" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">WordPress</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Medium" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Medium</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Write.as" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Write.as</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=WriteFreely" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">WriteFreely</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=SWF" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">SWF</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=SocialWebFoundation" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">SocialWebFoundation</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EEE</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mike McCue</a> A new proposal for a Fediverse logo is a Unicode character: ⁂ (U+2042).<br><br><blockquote>Most of all, whether we like it or not, millions of people are being exposed to this icon everyday on Threads as a symbol of the fediverse so I think it’s a pragmatic choice.</blockquote><br>This would not only allow, but <em>actively help</em> Meta assume control over the Fediverse.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Asterism" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Asterism</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseSymbol" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseSymbol</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseLogo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseLogo</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Meta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Meta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a>
Androcat<p>So, Threads has been scraping the fedi for feeding into their "Moderation Machine", resulting in a block list which includes Mastodon.Social</p><p>This confirms the suspicions of Embrace Extend Extinguish.</p><p>First step was to get big instance people hyped up about getting more audience and clout.<br>Second step: Block the big instances.<br>Third step: Due to uproar following from the thwarting of step 1, people will start to pressure their instances to comply with Threads moderation requirements (like, anything not supportive of Israeli bombardments is hate speech).</p><p>But you all knew that already.</p><p>Time to move off the big instances, they are going to bend over for big business, and then you might as well be on Facebook.</p><p><a href="https://toot.cat/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/blocklist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>blocklist</span></a></p>
Aral Balkan<p>Ooh, can’t wait to read the gushing praise from Mastodon GmbH for this on the Mastodon blog.</p><p>(Mastodon gGmbH and Meta are besties, you see. <a href="https://www.platformer.news/mastodon-interview-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">platformer.news/mastodon-inter</span><span class="invisible">view-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/</span></a>)</p><p>Is it up yet?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meta</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/besties" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>besties</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/allTheBetterToSeeYouWith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>allTheBetterToSeeYouWith</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/112391192672337102" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social.wildeboer.net/@jwildebo</span><span class="invisible">er/112391192672337102</span></a></p>
:mima_rule: Mima-sama<p>Ah but if <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> implements controls in replies and <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/quoteposts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#quoteposts</a> it's suddenly not <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a> or <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EEE</a> and it's actually good because safety yadda yadda. :seija_coffee:<span><br><br>These </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fedipact" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fedipact</a> people literally think that EEE in the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> is when Mastodon isn't doing it lmao :reimu_sigh:<span><br><br></span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediversemeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediversemeta</a><span><br><br>RE: </span><a href="https://mas.to/users/tokyo_0/statuses/112382573964635856" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://mas.to/users/tokyo_0/statuses/112382573964635856</a></p>
:mima_rule: Mima-sama<p>Tbh I'm not enthusiastic about a <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/hardfork" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hardfork</a>. Not necessarily because of the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/techdebt" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#techdebt</a> or even because it's technically inferior to other <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> implementations (which are both true), but because I cannot be sure if that new fork is going to adopt the same attitude as Mastodon in choking the rest of the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> with its proprietary extensions and <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a> / <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EEE</a><span>.<br><br>I'd rather not have the uncertainty. Either start from scratch like </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/GoToSocial" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GoToSocial</a> is doing or help the other two mainstream AP families which are <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Misskey</a> and <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pleroma</a>. That's the only way we can ensure no implementation overwhelmingly dominates the fedi. :seija_coffee:<span><br><br></span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediversemeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediversemeta</a><span><br><br>RE: </span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/112355187216928083" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/112355187216928083</a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/@mima" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">:mima_rule: Mima-sama</a><br><strong>Threads</strong> overrunning the Fediverse, pushing its culture and its limitations upon the rest of the Fediverse, forcing the rest of the Fediverse to adopt its own proprietary and non-standard stuff to stay compatible and trying to "be the Fediverse": 😠😖🤬🤮👎🖕💢🐖💩💀<br><br><strong>Mastodon</strong> overrunning the Fediverse, pushing its culture and its limitations upon the rest of the Fediverse and forcing the rest of the Fediverse to adopt its own proprietary and non-standard stuff to stay compatible and trying to "be the Fediverse": 😍😁🤗🥰👍👌👏🫶💙💯<br><br>Of course, none of those who recognise this hypocrisy as such are on Mastodon themselves and not on Threads either.<br><br>Oh, and by the way: No, Mastodon wasn't here first. It wasn't even the first project to support ActivityPub.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://social.beaware.live/@BeAware" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">BeAware :veriweed:</a> @<a href="https://corteximplant.com/@marta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Kitty Wife Milkshake</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Threads" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Threads</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EEE</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hypocrisy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Hypocrisy</a>
:mima_rule: Mima-sama<p><a href="https://social.beaware.live/@BeAware" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BeAware@social.beaware.live</a> <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/AuthorizedFetch" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AuthorizedFetch</a> is definitely a proprietary extension to <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> by <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a>. First added in 2019: <a href="https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/11269" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/11269</a><span><br><br>The main reason other AP implementations have added it (or in the case of </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Misskey</a>, made signing objects enabled by default which was a reluctant decision) as well despite Authorized Fetch / <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/SecureMode" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecureMode</a> not being documented in the spec is that plenty of big <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/MastoAdmins" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MastoAdmins</a> have enabled it for their instances thinking it will prevent harassment from instances they've blocked (despite the fact that AF is purely <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/securitytheater" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#securitytheater</a>), forcing the rest of the <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a><span> to adopt it to remain compatible. Even at the cost of performance (no more caching).<br><br>This is plain ol' </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a> or <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EEE</a> for short against AP and the fedi by the Mastodon monopoly, and nobody wants to talk about it because it undermines the narrative a lot of Mastodon admins are putting out to justify their fediblocking of <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Threads" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Threads</a>. Would've been fine if they focused on the (real) harms <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Facebook" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Facebook</a> did to Burma for example, that's a totally fine reason to block FB. But screaming EEE just makes me roll my eyes on their <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/hypocrisy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hypocrisy</a>. :seija_coffee:<span><br><br></span><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@marta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@marta@corteximplant.com</a><span><br><br></span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediversemeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediversemeta</a> <a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediblockmeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediblockmeta</a></p>
Paolo Redaelli<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.wake.st/@liaizon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>liaizon</span></a></span> so <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meta</span></a> made their own symbol for the <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a>.<br>I smell <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/embraceextendextinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>embraceextendextinguish</span></a> from a parsec of distance.<br>I suggest to put a warning to every interaction with any fediverse user coming from meta</p>
Fly Boy<p>How <a href="https://digitalnomads.social/search?tag=Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a> helped destroy adoption of <a href="https://digitalnomads.social/search?tag=RSSFeeds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RSSFeeds</span></a></p><p><a href="https://openrss.org/blog/how-google-helped-destroy-adoption-of-rss-feeds" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">openrss.org/blog/how-google-he…</a></p><p><a href="https://digitalnomads.social/search?tag=DigitalNomadTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DigitalNomadTech</span></a> <a href="https://digitalnomads.social/search?tag=RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RSS</span></a> <a href="https://digitalnomads.social/search?tag=EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
graphito<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@balterwenjamin42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>balterwenjamin42</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@andricheli" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>andricheli</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@macberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>macberg</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enshittification</span></a> usually comes overnight. One day <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/obsidian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>obsidian</span></a> Wikilinks might not open in <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Loqseq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Loqseq</span></a>, APIs get paywalled, dotfiles get converted to obfuscated format for "your privacy and security" and you're one announcement away from being tied to a pole. But enthusiasts will keep saying that .md is an open format.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
:mima_rule: Mima-sama<p><span>Always has been </span>:KoishiGun:<span><br><br></span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuotePosts</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteBoosts</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#QuoteTweets</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Threads" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Threads</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Facebook" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Facebook</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Meta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Meta</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmbraceExtendExtinguish</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/EEE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EEE</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Misskey</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pleroma</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Akkoma</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sharkey</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefish</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Calckey" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Calckey</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Hubzilla</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Friendica</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediblockmeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediblockmeta</a><span> </span><a href="https://makai.chaotic.ninja/tags/fediversemeta" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediversemeta</a><span><br><br>RE: </span><a href="https://authorship.studio/item/1c285421-a8cb-4ec4-9f4a-9fd435d8aaf4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://authorship.studio/item/1c285421-a8cb-4ec4-9f4a-9fd435d8aaf4</a></p>
Tushar Chauhan<p>A very important article by Lionel Dricot ( <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@ploum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ploum</span></a></span> ) :</p><p><a href="https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-ki</span><span class="invisible">ll-decentralised-networks.html</span></a></p><p>"But the Fediverse is not looking for market dominance or profit. The Fediverse is not looking for growth. It is offering a place for freedom. People joining the Fediverse are those looking for freedom."</p><p>The problem is that people coming to fedi from proprietary networks do not change their ethos.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/SiValleyGrift" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SiValleyGrift</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.mit.edu/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@bughuntercat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bughuntercat</span></a></span> I do care despite disagreeing.</p><p>The core point is that consensus is building that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AllGafamsAreBad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AllGafamsAreBad</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AllGafamsAreEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AllGafamsAreEvil</span></a> and the only way to prevent <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> from destroying the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> :fediverse: is to "firewall judiciously" as <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/suntzucyber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>suntzucyber</span></a> posted on :birdsite: :twitter: aka. :deadbird: ...</p><p><a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/activitypub.domains.block.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/greyhat-academy/lis</span><span class="invisible">ts.d/blob/main/activitypub.domains.block.list.tsv</span></a></p>
David Lohner<p>Because I probably will be part of an admin team of a soon-to-launch <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> Instance, here's an article by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@ploum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ploum</span></a></span> on a possible outcome of <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> "joining" the <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a>. </p><p>TL;DR: Beware of <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a>!</p><p>Although the post is 6 months old, it's still as relevant as ever. </p><p><a href="https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-ki</span><span class="invisible">ll-decentralised-networks.html</span></a></p><p>Thanks <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@jvanvinkenroye" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jvanvinkenroye</span></a></span> for pointing me at it!</p><p>cc <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@ankrjoe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ankrjoe</span></a></span></p>
zabbeer 🌱<p>📦 Any recommendations for <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FediPact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FediPact</span></a> instances? Looking for somewhere with a focus on either <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> or <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sustainability</span></a> in general.</p><p>Sadly moving on from <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@fosstodon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fosstodon</span></a></span> after the instance admin <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@mike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mike</span></a></span> made his stance on the issue clear.</p><p>I try to donate regularly to my home instance, and I can't do that in good conscience while helping <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> so many people worked so hard to build.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a></p>
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