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Ian Brown :verified:<p>You almost can't tell that we were experiencing technical difficulties this AM. Today on <a href="https://mastodon.hccp.org/tags/IanAndJaySpaceOut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IanAndJaySpaceOut</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://macaw.social/@jay" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jay</span></a></span> &amp; I get into "Hubris Maximus", <a href="https://mastodon.hccp.org/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> shenanigans at the Pentagon, Gottlob <a href="https://mastodon.hccp.org/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.hccp.org/tags/guillotines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>guillotines</span></a>, and more!</p><p>If recordings aren't your thing you can follow <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://live.ianandjayspaceout.com/federation/user/live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>live</span></a></span> and tune in to the next show. </p><p> <a href="https://archive.org/details/ian-and-jay-space-out-2025-04-27" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">archive.org/details/ian-and-ja</span><span class="invisible">y-space-out-2025-04-27</span></a></p>
INBELLA<p>Elodie Frege at the 15th NRJ Music Awards in Palais des Festivals in Cannes, December 2013. <a href="https://www.inbella.com/812086/elodie-frege-at-the-15th-nrj-music-awards-in-palais-des-festivals-in-cannes-december-2013/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">inbella.com/812086/elodie-freg</span><span class="invisible">e-at-the-15th-nrj-music-awards-in-palais-des-festivals-in-cannes-december-2013/</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/15th" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>15th</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/awards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>awards</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Cannes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cannes</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Celeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Celeb</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/CelebEvents" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CelebEvents</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Celebrities" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Celebrities</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Celebrity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Celebrity</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Celebs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Celebs</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/December" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>December</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/des" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>des</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Elodie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Elodie</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/events" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>events</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/festivals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>festivals</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>music</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/NRJ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NRJ</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/palais" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>palais</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Risque" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Risque</span></a></p>
David Löwenstein<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a> trägt an der <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@HHU" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>HHU</span></a></span> vor!<br>Wusstet ihr nicht?<br>Aber ihr wusstet, dass <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Campino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Campino</span></a> da vorträgt?<br>Dann wisst ihr nun immerhin, was den anderen <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a> dazu gebracht hat, zwischen <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Sinn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sinn</span></a> und <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bedeutung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bedeutung</span></a> zu unterscheiden! 😘</p>
Prof Felipe Gusmao<p>"If you study philosophy at a British or American <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/university" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>university</span></a>, your <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/education" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>education</span></a> in the history of the subject will likely be modest. Most universities teach <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Plato" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Plato</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Aristotle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Aristotle</span></a>, skip about two millennia to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Descartes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Descartes</span></a>, zip through the highlights of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Empiricism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Empiricism</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Rationalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rationalism</span></a> to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kant</span></a>, and then drop things again until the 20th Century, where <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Russell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russell</span></a> arise from the mists of the previous centuries’ Idealism ...”</p><p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/philosophy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>philosophy</span></a></span><br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosophy</span></a><br> <a href="https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/philosophy/46795/does-the-history-of-philosophy-matter" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/p</span><span class="invisible">hilosophy/46795/does-the-history-of-philosophy-matter</span></a></p>
Friedrich Wilhelm Grafe<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@ereliuer_eteer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ereliuer_eteer</span></a></span> </p><p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/philosophy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>philosophy</span></a></span> <br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/philosophie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>philosophie</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosophy</span></a></p><p>It was @Kant suggesting that, where the <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/mathematician" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mathematician</span></a> starts, <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/philosopher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosopher</span></a> 's work is already done [Über die Deutlichkeit der Grundsätze... §1...] </p><p>Of course in a formal system, say <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/FOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOL</span></a>, <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/identity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>identity</span></a> is simply the strictest equivalence relation, the unit classes of the domain being its equivalence classes. And yes, this is really elementary stuff, high school level, if you like. And no, that's not, why <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/philosophers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>philosophers</span></a> at least since <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/Leibniz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Leibniz</span></a> (and in a sense since <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/Parmenides" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Parmenides</span></a>), and more recently <a href="https://fediphilosophy.org/tags/Frege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frege</span></a> made a case for it. </p><p>Typically math philosophical issues with identity from my point of view do include the question of indiscernibles, the sense of an identity statement wrt. redundance, the relation status of identity, ... open list</p>