chesheer<p>So if you ever wondered how OpenBSD 7.7 (most recent one at the time of writing) works on 23-year old PC, I have recorded a boot process.<br>CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (single-core 1.6 Ghz) from 2002. i386, of course<br>RAM: 512 Mb DDR2<br>HDD: Some Western Digital 80Gb hard drive from ~2004<br>Fresh OpenBSD installation without any tweaks and tuning boots in 88 seconds.<br>There's definitely a room for improvement such as turning off libraries reordering (we should't worry about security too much on such machine). Less then a minute is easily possible.<br>But still, results are amazing, I think. It's a 23-year old PC! And it runs the most recent OS without any trouble. Try to do that with Windows 11 or any mainstream Linux distro.<br>Also, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FVWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FVWM</span></a> is pretty snappy and works just fine.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCtwh8yqU8" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=jrCtwh8yqU8</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/RunBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RunBSD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/RetroComputers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroComputers</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FVWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FVWM</span></a></p>
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KaiXinWhat a big surprise! I just found out that <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> suspend to S3 and wake up worked flawlessly on my <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=thinkpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinkPad</a> T470S. <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=x" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#X</a> with good old <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fvwm</a> and network with WiFi worked fine after wakeup. Fn function keys for backlight. I previously tested <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> and everything was working great too which is no surprise at all. I don't know if it's because tp had better support for <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a> or because devs tend to use tp thus support them at greater effort. Nevertheless, this is the best performance for the puffy and the beastie I have even seen on bare metal.<br><a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RUNBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=usebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UseBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://snac.bsd.cafe?t=foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a><br>
Thomas Adam<p>On <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xorg</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>windows</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/compatibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compatibility</span></a> </p><p>With all the recent bullsh^H^H^Htalk about <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xorg</span></a>, I realised an interesting historical piece of information. As early as 1999, fvwm (and not twm, from which fvwm is based) supported a raised-over-unmanaged workaround.</p><p>Specifically, it was for the following XServer implementations:</p><p>"Hummingbird Communications Ltd."<br>"Network Computing Devices Inc."<br>"WRQ, Inc."</p><p>It looks as though there was a bug in these servers, where a raise of the windows was needed:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/6000175467fada5d5329f2ecf9e1c0b99937b3ce/fvwm/stack.c#L1038" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/blob/</span><span class="invisible">6000175467fada5d5329f2ecf9e1c0b99937b3ce/fvwm/stack.c#L1038</span></a></p><p>From what I can tell:</p><p>Hummingbird Communications Ltd were acquired:</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Ltd" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingb</span><span class="invisible">ird_Ltd</span></a>.</p><p>Netwrok Computing Devices Inc:</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Computing_Devices" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_</span><span class="invisible">Computing_Devices</span></a></p><p>Defunct, but they did purchase some dumb terminals (TekXPress ) from Tektronix</p><p>WRQ Inc:</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Attachmate_Group" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atta</span><span class="invisible">chmate_Group</span></a></p><p>I could find no further information other than the paragraph or so mentioned here.</p><p>If anyone has any additional information on the <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/XServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XServer</span></a> used and its quirks, I'd love to know.</p><p>This has been a piece of <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> history for over 30 years so I'd love to hear from anyone who has further insight, please. :)</p>
Thomas Adam<p><a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm3</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/wm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wm</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/archaicsoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>archaicsoftware</span></a></p><p>Hey everyone.</p><p>I've just released fvwm3-1.1.3, the details of which you can find here:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/releases/tag/1.1.3" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/relea</span><span class="invisible">ses/tag/1.1.3</span></a></p><p>Not many features or changes in this release other than the usual bout of bug-fixes.</p><p>However, as I've bleated on about before, this release is significant in that autotools has been removed, and meson has replaced it.</p><p>This means you have to use meson or muon to build fvwm3.</p><p>The release notes mention this, but I know some will miss it. Again though, more information here:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discussions/1068" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discu</span><span class="invisible">ssions/1068</span></a></p><p>Let me know if you run into any issues.</p>
Justine SmithiesSo still on my <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a> adventure and although I missed images in the terminal be it <code>sixel</code> in <code>xterm</code> or the kitty protocol in <code>kitty</code>, I've decided to stick with good old <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=xterm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xterm</a> . Also on my <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> daily driver I'm used to such luxuries as icons in the terminal like font awesome or nerd fonts but even though I could have used <code>alacritty</code> or <code>kitty</code> to achieve this I have decided to for go them. After all what do they do other make it look pretty ? I don't get any other functionality from them and they can easily be replaced with text. You might have noticed too that although I'm a <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> chic on my <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=thinkpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinkPad</a> I've decided to be all nostalgic and stick with Xorg on OpenBSD. I haven't yet settled on a window manager be it tiling or stacking but <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=herbstluftwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HerbstluftWM</a> and <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=openbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Openbox</a> are in my sights although I'm still using the default <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fvwm</a> right now. I have my Qutebrowser setup and aerc for my email. Printing via cups and xsane for scanning. Looking into <code>nsxiv</code> for an image viewer as the OpenBSD port of <code>imv</code> is well out of date. Yes I'm having to make small changes but once I'm finished this wee Dell Optiplex 3080 tower will be perfect for daily driving OpenBSD and I'm looking forward to learning lots more. <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a><br>
chesheer<p>Charming story of struggle and finding peace in <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/FVWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FVWM</span></a> If you like those old Linux vibes.<br>I myself once spent a week struggling with FVWM on <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a> . But OpenBSD, alas, has very old version in base, circa 2002 due to licensing reasons. So I couldn't do many things I wanted to do.<br>FVWM feels extremely strange and simply crazy when you delve into config files. But then configuration syntax starts to make sense and you feel you can do just about anything with it. I couldn't, though. =(<br><a href="https://homeforaday.org/fvwm/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">homeforaday.org/fvwm/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@peppe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>peppe</span></a></span> Well, <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/dwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dwm</span></a> is a window manager. Then there's <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/dwl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dwl</span></a>, which is a <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/compositor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compositor</span></a>, trying to do "functionally the same" as dwm. My point is, it has to implement a lot more stuff to do so.</p><p>My favorite window manager is <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> (or now <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm3</span></a>), and as far as I know, its main developer was looking into wayland and currently doesn't have any concrete plans to work on that ... and I can perfectly understand. 😔</p>
Dendrobatus Azureus<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ruby.social/@passthejoe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>passthejoe</span></a></span> </p><p>Fvwm is the first Window Manager I used in Linux, way back when you had to compile everything yourself from scratch. It made me think of the Amiga Magic User Interface, which gave fvwm a very familiar look and feel</p><p><a href="https://www.fvwm.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">fvwm.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fuzzies.wtf/@altbot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>altbot</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/UI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UI</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/DE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DE</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/XFCE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XFCE</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Desktops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Desktops</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Max12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Max12</span></a> <br><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bash</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/csh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>csh</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/ksh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ksh</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/sh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sh</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/parameters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>parameters</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/POSIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>POSIX</span></a></p>
r1w1s1 :slackware:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@RL_Dane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>RL_Dane</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@release_candidate" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>release_candidate</span></a></span> nice! Also using <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> on my laptop with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/slackware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>slackware</span></a> current :)</p>
Thomas Adam<p><a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://bsd.network/tags/fvwm3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm3</span></a></p><p>fvwm3-1.1.1 has been released!</p><p>See: <a href="https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/releases/tag/1.1.1" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/relea</span><span class="invisible">ses/tag/1.1.1</span></a></p><p>Note that this release represents a good nine months worth of work. In that time, there's been five new contributors (thanks to you!).</p><p>This release is notable for a few things:</p><p>1. There is a new buildsystem -- meson is replacing autotools. As from this date (2024-NOV-30), there is now a six-month timer on autools support in fvwm3. On Friday 30th May 2025, I will be removing autotools from the fvwm3 repository. meson will be the default at that point.</p><p>See: <a href="https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discussions/1068" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm3/discu</span><span class="invisible">ssions/1068</span></a></p><p>2. FvwmRearrange has been completely overhauled, and has a number of nifty options to control placement. Do please take a look at some of the options and examples in `man FvwmRearrange`.</p><p>3. FvwmPager has received some further updates for `is_shared` mode.</p><p>4. Moving windows and maximizing them has now gained some further options:</p><p>Moving windows can now honour window boundaries (see the `all_windows` and `both_sides` options to the `Move` command).</p><p>You can now maximize a window to honour the window below to make another window the same size: `Maximize both_sides True grow grow`.</p><p>There's also been a bunch of other changes too numerous to list here. See the release notes for more information.</p><p>Special thanks for this release has to go to Matt Jolly for all his hard work on getting meson working with fvwm.</p><p>Also, to Jaimos Skriletz for his hard work on FvwmPager, FvwmRearrange, and other areas/bug-fixes.</p><p>Let the numerous other bugs introduced with this release haunt us all!</p><p>Enjoy!</p>
mms :runbsd: :emacs: :c64:<p>With <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xterm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xterm</span></a> hiding all of its usability and <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> being not as popular as it should be: I’m starting to think that Wayland was a huge mistake. It may remove the screen tearing and be more secure, but it ensures that people coming into *nix won’t see how great it used to be. </p><p>Ot may not be systemd level of apocalypse. But it’s also in line with its love for modern apple - screw history. Fire the wrecking ball, we’ve got new stuff to build. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xorg</span></a></p>
Caio<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ursal.zone/@pbaesse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pbaesse</span></a></span> Haha, não tem problema. Valeu por ler! Sinto falta de um misto da experiência que tive usando certos aplicativos em plataformas que ficaram no passado. Queria ter uma experiência coesa, bem consistente, mas... com uma base sólida e de código aberto. Se eu tivesse os meios, financiaria o desenvolvimento, a começar pelo ambiente desktop, porque estou correndo risco de ficar órfão do <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/FVWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FVWM</span></a> com o avanço do <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> (que eu estou testando com <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNOME</span></a>, mas não consigo me sentir feliz usando) e, francamente, nunca tive um bom gerenciador de programas, tendo de improvisar com menus suspensos e barras de botões.</p>
Tomáš<p>year of the desktop pajamas </p><p><a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/unix_surrealism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unix_surrealism</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/technomage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technomage</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openbsd</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/comic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>comic</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>runbsd</span></a></p>
Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:<p>Ok, I have a <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/portability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>portability</span></a> issue to fix in <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Xmoji" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Xmoji</span></a>. As reported by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@0x1eef" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>0x1eef</span></a></span>, it does not build on <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a>. Seems OpenBSD doesn't provide the "<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/POSIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>POSIX</span></a> interval timers":</p><p><a href="https://github.com/Zirias/xmoji/issues/4" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/Zirias/xmoji/issues</span><span class="invisible">/4</span></a></p><p>I guess that's possible to fix by writing code to multiplex the single timer offered by setitimer(). Of course, that's exactly what I wanted to avoid by using the POSIX interval timers. 😞</p><p>Is there any good alternative for OpenBSD? What are other projects doing? 🤔 <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bsd.network/@thomasadam" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thomasadam</span></a></span>, does <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> need timers and, if so, how is it solved there?</p>
Root Moose<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BrodieOnLinux</span></a></span> FVWM is/was great. I started using more or less when it started and I've used it as recently as 2022 on some custom embedded "carputer" type devices. Totally themeable/strippable/placeable.</p><p>Would like to see a <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> version but... probably won't happen.</p><p>Had a stint of using <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/afterstep" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>afterstep</span></a> for a number of years. On an Intel Pentium dual P90 homebuilt. Ha!</p><p><a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://root.moose.ca/tags/funtimes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>funtimes</span></a></p>
Raven<p>Since desktop environments can always change and many new releases came out since last year, I would like to know which desktop environment you currently use?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/kdeplasma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>kdeplasma</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xfce4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xfce4</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/cinnamondesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cinnamondesktop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/matedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>matedesktop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/budgiedesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>budgiedesktop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/lxqt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lxqt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/linuxdesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linuxdesktop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freebsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openbsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>netbsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/i3wm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>i3wm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bspwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bspwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xmonad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmonad</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/dwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/qtile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>qtile</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xorg</span></a></p><p>* Multiple choices possible</p>
dr 🛠️🛰️📡🎧:blobfoxcomputer:<p>I know I sound like an old man, but...come ON. There's no way to make a <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a> launcher without *editing an arcane text file*? </p><p>If it's going to work like the early 90s, can we just go back to <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> ?</p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a></p>
Tomáš<p>"about the impertinence of good software"</p><p><a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/unix_surrealism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unix_surrealism</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/technomage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technomage</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openbsd</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/9front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>9front</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/penguin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>penguin</span></a></p>
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cryptax<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> I still use FVWM daily by the way. The look and feel is a bit more modern, but configuration file hasn't changed much.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fvwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fvwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>desktop</span></a></p>
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