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@compl4xx @Layer8 @nick @kuketzblog @marcel @mspro

  • EXAKT DAS!

Meine Rede...

Oder um es einfach zu erklären: Warum gibt es #HTTP(S) & #HTML sowie #eMail ( #IMAP & #SMTP) bis heute und keiner nutzt mehr #AOL, #MSN, #ICQ?

Wenn @signalapp / #Signal wegen #CloudAct geflipped wird wie #EncroChat, #ANØM & #SkyECC dann stehen Leute alternativlos in der shice ubd die ganzen "Sicherheitsversprechen" lösen sich in "#TrustMeBro!" und #Lügen auf.

Ich nutze meinen XMPP-Account seit Ewigkeiten und habe drölfzig Clients durch. Aber Kontakte erreichen mich darüber Problemlos!

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de naja, @signalapp@mastodon.world fällt auch unter #CloudAct ubd #Threema ist noch #proprietärer als #Signal. - Gibt mit #XMPP+#OMEMO eine wirklich #sichere & #dezentrale Alternative die keine #PII wie #Telefonnummern oder #Google-Dienste braucht! Ach ja, @monocles@monocles.social / #moniclesChat haben [grade](https://monocles.social/@monocles/113925173206088469) ne #Promo zum #GlobalSwitchDay und bieten deren #App kostenlos an. - Und sonst gibt's auch noch @delta@chaos.social / #deltaChat welche #PGO/MIME & #eMail als Basis nutzen! Für [beide gibt's](https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv) [kostenlose Anbieter](https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/email.servers.list.tsv) und #SelfHosting ist genauso machbar wie deren *echte #E2EE* mit #SelfCustody!

AOL Instant Messenger is back! Sort of! Although AIM shut down in 2017, the retro-aim-server project keeps it alive in modern, self-hosted server that supports ICQ, too. github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-serv

I'm running an instance at oscar.schrockwell.com, so sign in with any screen name and come say hello! Client install directions here: github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-serv

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@rysiek @agturcz that's not how you fix #TechIlliteracy, espechally since things changed for the better.

@monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim / #gajim are quite easy, whereas @signalapp / #Signal demands #PII in the form of a #Phone number which is more often than not not legally obtainable without "#KYC" aka. "forced #SelfDoxxing" all whilst being an extremely #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution that falls under #CloudAct ant thus cannot adhere to #GDPR & #BDSG!

Otherwise we'd only perpetuate the #Enshittification-#Lifecycle as has happened with #AIM, #ICQ, #BBM and so many more...

  • Mark my words, cuz I've been proven correct up to this point.

If #Signal and @Mer__edith actually cared, they would've setup their system truly decentralized as an #OnionService over @torproject / #Tor!

Mastodon 🐘Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (@rysiek@mstdn.social)@kkarhan@infosec.space I ran and hosted a bunch of XMPP servers a while back. It was a pain to use, and it was easy for users to make mistakes and accidentally send messages in the clear. You are making people les safe. Last time: please stop doing this in my mentions and replies. @agturcz@circumstances.run @torproject@mastodon.social
#THXBYE#EOD#ITsec
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@MastoDenunzianten @monocles

Natürlich kannste der #Desinformation von #Diensteanbietern glauben, aber dann ist #WhatsApp auch #E2EE weil die #SSL nutzen (und mit der Logik auch #WeChat & #QQ - lol)!

  • Ernsthaft, es gibt nen Grund warum #XMPP+#OMEMO & #PGP/MIME bis heute sich halten und proprietäre shice alla #MSN & #ICQ tot ist.

Gerade weil wirkliche #InfoSec & #OpSec sowie #ComSec & #ITsec nur mit #Transparenz geht.

  • Ich vertrau' prinzipiell keinem Code oder Anbieter...
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@henry ah yes ICQ, so many times over the years when a new feature on the other socials arrived, I've said ICQ had/have that already. ICQ and IRC where the only two things that stood up to the online chaos one September, all other MSM fell over and we in the office only had what people told us that they saw on telly happening in NY via #ICQ and #IRC

It's a good time to remember the long-forgotten programs like ICQ and QIP, where the only thing left from the good old ICQ is the "o-ou" sound. They already had their own emojis and icons, and in the latest versions even their own qip.ru account. But I agree, it was a good thing! It made ICQ more comfortable and interesting. Just a plugin like the one that fetched the current song from Winamp and put the title in ICQ status was worth a lot!

It was amazing that ICQ had an open protocol that allowed you to write your own clients. I remember a rebellious one under Mandriva Linux that I built from source code. It took an enormous amount of energy. Especially later with the encodings. But what joy it was when everything started working stably!

In the picture is my honeymoon with Linux. I started making these kinds of screenshots before it became mainstream 😬

#Nostalgia#ICQ#QIP