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Lime Bar<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MicroG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> not supporting hardware security key gives me great pause about it in general. I don't know if that makes sense but nevertheless. Thoughts?

jj_ov_daess<a href="https://wisskomm.social/@FloraIncognita_DE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@FloraIncognita_DE</a> [Update] Das Problem ist mittlerweile gelöst, die App brauchte bei mir nur extrem lange für den ersten Start.[/Update] Liebes Flora Incognita Team. Seit kurzem betreibe ich mein Smartphone unter <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a> und ohne Google Dienste. Leider läuft seither die Flora Incognita App nicht mehr, weil eben die google services notwendig sind. Es wäre schön, wenn ihr diese Abhängikeit entfernen könnte. Wofür werden die überhaupt genutzt? Standortabfrage und Karten gehen auch ohne, wie viele Navigations-Apps zeigen. Gründe google-frei zu leben gibt es genügend: <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/unplugtrump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unplugtrump</a> <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/gutgemacht" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gutgemacht</a> PS: Nein, <a href="https://metalhead.club/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a> möchte ich auch nicht nutzen

das_menschyHat es schon irgendjemand mal geschafft, bei <a href="https://toot.bike/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a> mit <a href="https://toot.bike/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a> per Google Play Guthaben was zu kaufen mit der experimentellen Funktion? Ich würde mir gerne für 2,49€ bei der DWD-Warnapp die Vollversion kaufen, aber nach dem letzten Mal klicken komm ich nur zurück zur eingeschränkten Version... Vielleicht muss ich doch mal mit adb debuggen...

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://gladtech.social/@avoca" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@avoca</a><blockquote>Interested in your thoughts on e/OS?</blockquote>I'm very curious about it, as well. Seems to be one of the slickest, consumer-oriented <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> (or at least mostly-FOSS?) <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> OSes* out there. The launcher even tries to mimic the classic iOS launcher.<blockquote>Tried GrapheneOS, far exceeds my threat level.</blockquote>They definitely have the best security of any FOSS Android, but I disagree that running sandboxed google play is better (more private) than <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/microg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a>. It'd be amazing if they had a MicroG option, but they're dead-set against it. The community's culture is... iffy.* Nitpick, but I hate calling them ROMs. It's an OS. It's not read-only, it's a full OS! Ceci n'est-ce pas un Arduino XD

Marvin W<a href="https://fedifreu.de/@cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cryptgoat</a> <a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@gnulinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gnulinux</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> <a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@ralfhersel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ralfhersel</a> Kurze Korrektur: Die Standard-Konfiguration von upstream <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a> funkt nicht an Google. Alle Funktionen die mit Google-Servern kommunizieren sind nach der Installation zunächst abgeschaltet und müssen erst vom Nutzer aktiviert werden, sofern er das möchte./e/OS kann allerdings eine andere Konfiguration für microG vorauswählen. Ob das passiert und wie die aussieht kann ich nicht sagen, sollte man aber klar von microG abgrenzen.

CryptGoat<a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@gnulinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gnulinux</a> Ich versteh ja, dass der Autor <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/eOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eOS</a> nutzt, aber wie sehr das System bei euch immer wieder in zahlreichen Artikeln beschönigt wird, ist doch ehrlich gesagt auffällig und echt daneben.<blockquote>Bei /e/OS handelt es sich um ein Google-freies Betriebssystem für Smartphones.</blockquote>Das ist schlicht unwahr. eOS verwendet <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>, einen freien Nachbau der Google-Dienste, und zwar vorinstalliert. Die Standardkonfiguration funkt fleißig nach Google. Das mag zwar freier und transparenter sein, aber nicht frei von Google.Selbiges gilt für die App-Lounge:<blockquote>Für anmeldungsfreie Apps wird ein anonymes Konto verwendet. Bei Bezahl-Apps, braucht man ein Google-Konto.</blockquote>Auch für die anonymen Konten werden selbstverständlich Google-Konten verwendet.Und das zieht sich so weiter durch das ganze System. <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kuketzblog</a> hat das damals gut aufbereitet: <a href="https://www.kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfreundlich-bedeutet-nicht-zwangslaeufig-sicher-custom-roms-teil6/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfreundlich-bedeutet-nicht-zwangslaeufig-sicher-custom-roms-teil6/</a> Ich glaube fundamental hat sich da nichts geändert.<a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@ralfhersel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ralfhersel</a>, bleib da doch mal bitte bei den Fakten, auch wenn du da ehrenamtlich über dein eigenes Gerät schreibst. Es entsteht einfach ein falsches Bild, dass durch das Marketing von Gaël Duval und <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Murena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Murena</a> in die Welt gesetzt wurde. Mich würde das nicht so ärgern, wenn eOS wenigstens ein kompetent gepflegtes System wäre (1/2)

Paeiro<a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@GrapheneOS</a> what is your opinión about <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/MicroG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> for <a href="https://mastodon.gal/tags/lineageOs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lineageOs</a> or other open source alternatives to Google apps.?

Wolność w Kieszeni.plAnaliza /e/ osPolecam bardzo szczegółową analizę i test forka LineageOS - /e/ os przeprowadzoną przez autora bloga kuketz-blog.de. Analiza obejmuje m. in. opis i zawartość systemu (aplikacje), konfigurację, funkcjonowanie, łączność, kwestie prywatności i bezpieczeństwa, omówienie procesu instalacji a nawet informacje o deweloperach i ich misji. Artykuł niestety w języku niemieckim, jednak automatyczne tłumaczenie na angielski przez Firefoxa jest całkiem akceptowalne. <a href="https://pol.social/tags/eos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eos</a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/lineageos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lineageos</a> <a href="https://pol.social/tags/microg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microg</a><a href="https://www.kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfreundlich-bedeutet-nicht-zwangslaeufig-sicher-custom-roms-teil6/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.kuketz-blog.de/e-datenschutzfreundlich-bedeutet-nicht-zwangslaeufig-sicher-custom-roms-teil6/</a>

GrantixUn peu déçu par mon nouveau <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/fairphone6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fairphone6</a> sous /e/OS.L'appareil photo bugge : pas de zoom et et n'utilise pas les 50 Mpixels de l'appareil. Et l'application de ma banque ne veut pas fonctionner car pas installée via Google Play. À ce sujet, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/MicroG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> a publié une version plus récente que celle fournie. Mon Galaxy S9 acheté reconditionné avec /e/OS il y a près de 6 ans a moins de problèmes logiciels.<a href="https://mastodon.social/@e_mydata" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@e_mydata</a>

Lu_Die_MilchkuhPretty much everything works even without a Google account in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>. Sadly one very important app does not work: LuxTrust Mobile. It is a verification app that is pretty much required for any banking app (funny because my banking app works) here in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Luxembourg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Luxembourg</a>. If anyone knows a way to hide the fact that I am running a custom ROM from an app, please let me know.

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://polymaths.social/@krafter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@krafter</a> <a href="https://polymaths.social/@amin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@amin</a> <a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@OpenComputeDesign" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@OpenComputeDesign</a> <a href="https://polymaths.social/@tripplehelix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tripplehelix</a> <a href="https://polymaths.social/@alatartheblue" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@alatartheblue</a>I like <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/microg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> a lot. It's the perfect compromise.

Cadu Silva :foxxy:Bancos brasileiros que ainda funcionam no <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> com <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>:- Itaú - Santander - Banco BV - Nubank - Sicredi - Mercado PagoOutros: - e-Título<a href="https://bolha.one/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a>

Cadu Silva :foxxy:Bancos brasileiros que não funcionam mais no <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> com <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>:- Inter - Banco do Brasil - BTG - banco BV<a href="https://bolha.one/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a>

ChrisFrom a privacy-focused perspective, <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/MicroG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> clearly has the advantage. While Google <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/PlayServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlayServices</a> even when sandboxed, are still designed to collect certain telemetry and diagnostics, MicroG deliberately avoids collecting or transmitting such data.MicroG is intentionally designed to replicate only the essential APIs required for app compatibility. It excludes the broader telemetry and analytics components that are deeply embedded in the official Google Play Services.

ChrisAfter discussing with @GrapheneOS about sandboxed <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/PlayServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlayServices</a> and <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/MicroG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> which one is more privacy friendly, they blocked me. 😂 Obviously they don't tolerate criticism. Cowards. <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/CalyxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CalyxOS</a>

Cadu Silva :foxxy:O Banco do Brasil seguiu os passos do Inter e bloqueou a senha sem motivo, provavelmente por eu não estar no Android com Google Play Services.Fica o alerta para quem usa LineageOS ou outras ROM alternativas e é correntista do BB.<a href="https://bolha.one/tags/BB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BB</a> <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/BancoDoBrasil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BancoDoBrasil</a> <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LineageOS</a> <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@justincrozer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@justincrozer</a>If you have a spare phone, you might want to try out a <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/microg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a>-based OS like <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/calyxos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CalyxOS</a>. I can't guarantee that it'd work better, but it's a nice middle ground between no google services and "sandboxed" google services, because it's a FOSS re-implementation of the google services.The other option would maybe be putting sandboxed google play and just the troublesome apps in a work profile, so you can turn that all off and on as you need it and contain the badness?

mid_kidThe latter of those is specifically <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lineageos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lineageos</a>, whose support channels are incredibly toxic towards anything that can be considered remotely off-topic. Don't let them find out you use universal tools like <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/twrp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#twrp</a>, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/microg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microg</a> or <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/magisk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#magisk</a>, they will *insist* nobody uses them, and you *will* be burned at the stake.I get it, you get questions from idiots all day, and you want to keep the topic well-defined, but at least treat me like a person, and if you can, help me find someplace else to ask...

AntoineÐ❓:boost_requested: Question pour les personnes qui utilisent <a href="https://kwak.cab/tags/MicroG" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicroG</a> ou <a href="https://kwak.cab/tags/eOS" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eOS</a> <a href="https://kwak.cab/tags/murenaos" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#murenaos</a> : Arrivez vous a avoir un GPS fiable ? Si oui, comment ? Pendant longtemps ma solution était d’utiliser AppleWifiNlpBackend, mais ce n’est visiblement plus possible… cc <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@microg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@microg</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@e_mydata" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@e_mydata</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@murena" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@murena</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@gael" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gael</a>

ValI have recently become aware of the existence of <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/tags/microG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#microG</a>, which is very interesting to me. I consider trying to install it on my <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fairphone</a> 3+.Any one has some experience doing that?

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