@FandaSin obviously, just like any enclosed biosphere, these things don't last forever.

• But given the average lifetime of #LiIon;/ #LiPo / #LiCo - batteries and their degradation, I'd say that such an algae battery (alongside electronics like #capacitors and other means to smoothen out power supply and.buffer for demands) would definitely be an improvement for many use-cases.

• Espechally if we're talking about devices in well-lit areas.

I'd consider it more akin to non-rechargeable longlife batteries for something that needs to run unattended for months if not years.

• But so far this is some interesting research and even if this technology could not improve from the tested lab version, I'd say it's sufficient to power a dive computer if not keep a big capacitor charged for something like an #EPIRB.

Not to mention it may be a potential competitior to #SolarPanels in some cases where an optimal panel installation is impossible.

• I'd not even expect it to be able to charge a smartphone, much less to power a #Pi0W2 even when run underclocked with only a single thread.

@felyashono You don't need to make devices #thicc|er or heavier just by making them #repairable.

• #Sony's Vaio #P11Z did have a toolfree-removeable battery yet it was less than 15mm thick and weighted ~560g with the standard battery and even <750g with an obscenely thicc aftermarket battery.

• #Fairphone's devices are just as #thinn as any other #smartphone, yet they offer toolfree replaceable batteries!

• #rectangular / #prismatic cells exist. Just because you rarely see them compared to 14500/18650/21700 cylinders but that doesn't mean they ain't available.

• if #Framework didn't decide to go with a *"pan"-style design, they could've made their flat #battery toolfree-swappable just as the Aforementioned VAIO.

There are other ways to make a device thinner and lighter, ranging from Magnesium to fiber reinforced plastic to carbon fiber. Some #ThinkPad|s did all 3.

• Not to mention sticking batteries in makes replacements unnecessary dangerous and can yield users to not replace "#DangerPillow|s" until they crack the housong or most likely the screen.

Also most of the gains in terms of battery runtime are attributeabke to better battery chemistry, higher grade cells by modern standards and lower power consumption by smaller process nodes (65nm @ 1,5V -> 7nm @ 0,85V can basically reduce power by 90% without any tricks!) and more powerful chips that more dynamically switch to low power states transparently. (Which is why you often get 4 different TDP ratings on some chips, with nominal, maximum & minimum configureable maximums and typical @ nominal settings)…

• Just compare an #EeePC701 with a #Pi0W2 and you can see the difference...

#AntiRepairDesign is a choice by the manufacturer. #IP68, #ATEX & #MILSTD810 can be achieved without glueing shit together!

@dalias @eniko I wIshed there was a good way to boot external media on #Pi0 & #Pi0w2...

#Pi3B+ and up support #USB-#Boot out of the box...

@ClickyMcTicker @FoxVK @br00t4c Pretty shure that the entire system parts are less than $20 when they make like 10k.

It'll lilely be on par with a #Pi0W2 or similar #SBC abeit with maybe two cheap PCIe NICs and a Ethernet Switch on it.

• Certainly much cheaper than the first #BananaPi #Router board since a lot of stuff could just be axed from it...

Even if it had Per-LED addressable RGBWs those would be like ~$0,10 on a reel of 5k, so just wasted money, but I'm shure it'll likely not even have that but simple, voltage-controlled RGB-LEDs that cost less than half of that if it has RGB at all beyond preset colours, which could be done even cheaper with EL Wire strips...

Either way it should cost them less than $50 to get it packed, shipped and distributed for display on brick & mortar retail shelves with all the regulatory crap and customs done...

@LambdaCalculus
As long as "cheap chinese clones" only try to bamboozle with specs and not get their documentation and drivers onto an acceptable standard (and the #Pi5B sets the bottom line here!), noone wants to buy those.

• I literally have a #BananaPiZeroM2 that I bought during the great #PiShortage but I never bothered to use it anywhere because it's more hassle than to antenna mod a #Pi0W or #Pi0W2 and call it a day because it doesn't require me to download some janky custom image to get even a regular 80x25 #Linux CLI up and running.

@braid oh...

Then maybe consider a bunch of @Raspberry_Pi #Pi0W2's or #CM4's with a #PoE board and Switch...

That should get you some < €100 / node option...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDGlpnP-vE video via @geerlingguy

@torproject @fdroidorg @tails
I mean at worst one could use like a @Raspberry_Pi #Pi0W or #Pi0W2 if not a #CM3(lite) and make it a #thicc and #chonky brick like a #phat #Iridium or classic #NokiaCommunicator...

Ideally with like a good thumb-#keyboard and rugged case so it survives being flushed down the toilet...

#BonusPoints if it takes standard 18650 #LiIon / #LiPo or even 21700 #LiFePo4 cells...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWN65NqNOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8CariVZ0M

But in the end it's a different scope.

OS/1337 aims to be the #Software-esque equivalent of "you want to build a gadget? Just shove a @Raspberry_Pi #Pi0W / #Pi0W2 in it!" and thus be the slate for other projects of mine and also a nice and versatile #rescue system that could be configured [ahead of time!] to [Reverse-]#SSH from a system, providing a cornerstone to build something like a #vendor-independent #LOM / #BMC to #upcycle older systems into #headless #servers!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-band_management

@landley That being said the #Pi0W and #Pi0W2 can be run with batteries and there are HATs to do so.

But I giess we both agree that this is even less elegant than me shoving a Keyboard on a crappy smartphone m amd the only reason to target the #Pi0 is because code that runs on it will run on all other #RaspberryPi #SBCs and almost all clones with no changes.

Not optimal OFC, but it'll run...

@ripper uwu...

wird das nen Premium #Gatcha - Automat mit #Hackware wie nem @Raspberry_Pi #PiPico oder #Pi0 / #Pi0W / #Pi0W2?

@B_Whitewind @rpilocator Even the regular-ass @Raspberry_Pi #Pi0 v1.3 (not even #Pi0W or the #Pi0W2) are available at MSRP in the entire #EU...