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Does anyone know if or any other supposed “AI" LLM is anything but total dogshit with Perl?

I ask because so far we have not had any bug reports or rule contributions or *anything* seemingly LLM-generated for . This is good. However, it makes me wonder if it isn't a larger issue. Which would also be good.

The people committed to DDoSing the RuleQA server seem to have substantial resources. I’ve blocked a lot of them, but they keep coming, asking about things like the May 7 2017 performance of a single rule in one contributor's stats. Not stuff real people want.

Of course, there's a resource they do not have. Our sysadmins, both those employed by to watch all of our infra and the volunteer cadre focused on SA. We'll keep whacking the moles...

Last week we enabled PRs on our read-only GH repo so that people who are most comfortable using git rather than svn can easily contribute.

Today we got the first garbage PR, apparently created by some LLM. It includes deleting everything.

It will not be merged.

But if you are NOT a LLM and want to help with SA, you can now use Github to submit PRs. HOWEVER, I suggest that those doing so provide comprehensible explanations of your intended contributions.

I finally got my first bit of legitimate spam (is that even a thing?) since installing SpamAssassin on my mail server. SpamAssissin did its job and correctly tagged the message as spam.

Honestly, when I first set up my mail server, I thought I'd get a lot more spam. Either I've been lucky, or my internet hygiene is pretty okay.

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Now coming from AWS Bahrain.
I guess they got tired of being whacked at a fast pace and hamfisted scale.

Anyway, the volume is much less now, so if you wanted to interact with the RuleQA system as a sane human might, you now can. Probably. For now.

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Gee, I hope no legitimate users are trying to get to RuleQA from these places...

Prefix: 94.74.80.0/20
Prefix: 101.44.176.0/20
Prefix: 111.119.192.0/20
Prefix: 159.138.96.0/20
Prefix: 166.108.192.0/20
Prefix: 188.239.32.0/20

Replied to Santiago

@santiago FWIW, the automated rescoring that we (the SA Project of ) do for the default rule channel works on the assumption that the threshold is 5. If you reduce the threshold you should put in proactive work to improve (i.e. reduce) the scores of mail that you value.

E.g. I use a level of 4 & I use the supplementary KAM rules channel. I can only do that because the vast majority of the legit mail on my server is aimed at "more_spam_to" addresses.

If you use and actually want mail sent to you from a subdomain of .com, you will want to add that specifically to your local welcomelist. We've had reports of signed spam from such domains, so we cannot leave the wildcard in the "default welcomelist" in SA's rule channel.

This change just went into SVN and will take a day or two to appear in the channel.

Anyone who followed me in recent days for my lore and related and hot takes should know that I'm one of those "everything is political" guys who does not believe in falsely limiting myself...
I'm a good one to mute for the day when you've heard enough terrible news.

"The stats we collect for the #SpamAssassin project (mass-scan results from participating sites) have long shown that spammers are more consistent at making #SPF, #DKIM, and #DMARC correct than are legitimate senders. DMARC in particular has no discernible benefit for most senders, so it is a useless signal.

Rejecting mail based solely on authentication failures of those deeply flawed authentication methods does more harm than good."

jwz.org/blog/2025/03/dmarc-and

EDIT: h/t @grumpybozo