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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@XLibreDev" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@XLibreDev</a> <a href="https://masto.hackers.town/@antijingoist" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@antijingoist</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@resingm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@resingm</a> well, I've read enough drama re: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jps3H-AVDlo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">this whole ordeal.</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCU4W5Ab33c" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">The original idea</a> (make a new <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xorg</a> release so people don't use random <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/git" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#git</a> snapshots) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k75A7Wne22w" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">might've been noble</a> but got self-sabotaged by an unbearable (as in <a href="http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8609" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ESR</a> & <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SKenHRhMg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">RMS</a>) maintainer giving everyone the finger.</li></ul>Or to put it in simple terms:<ul><li>"Please, fork off!"</li></ul>As shitty as it may seem, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xorg</a> is 'on live support' (like a braindead organ donor) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xlibre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xlibre</a> won't change the fact that the course of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> is locked in.<ul><li>It feels like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HDVMD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HDVMD</a>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Z4iL8hy1A" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">A hack</a> that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCzfENI_pU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">isn't gonna be the future</a>.</li></ul>OFC people have the right to build their own Wayland & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a>-free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Unix</a>-esque distro. <ul><li>I just don't see anyone wanting to build drivers for at best 1% of Desktops and nieche Distros not following <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LSB</a> conventions.</li></ul>Instead I'm convinced <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayback" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Wayback</a> by <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ariadne</a> will be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg3j1GapNyw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">the solution for the problem</a> when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#X11</a> applications & desktops that don't work on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xwayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xwayland</a>!

bluca<a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> v258 has been released! This took a while, as the process to decide which of your favourite, venerable tool that did one thing and did it well to kill and subsume is long and laborious. But we got there in the end. Go check the release notes to find out which one it will be this time around:<a href="https://github.com/systemd/systemd/releases/tag/v258" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/systemd/systemd/releases/tag/v258</a>

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://exquisite.social/@thorstenzoeller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@thorstenzoeller</a> <a href="https://adhd.irenes.space/@ireneista" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ireneista</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@existentialcomics" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@existentialcomics</a>Honestly, it's more insidious than even that. XDSomething like, "<a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> walks into a bar, offers to help the barkeep with washing the glasses and serving drinks, and slowly poisons his mind into retiring and giving him the bar, which he then makes into a brothel."

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://adhd.irenes.space/@ireneista" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ireneista</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@existentialcomics" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@existentialcomics</a>I honestly greatly prefer <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenBSD</a>'s attitude of, "This is our system, we made it the way we want it, if you don't like it, go eff yourself or run Linux or something, whatever" over <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>'s "Here's a few million lines of source code, you don't *wink* have to *wink* use it of course, we'll only pester the ever living fork out of ever major distro to use it and wage psychological warfare on Debian maintainers until they comply. *wink* *uwu*"Oh and of course, if you complain about it, we'll just say "Oh, but SYSVinit sucked so hard, what is even wrong with you, you actually want to maintain SHELL SCRIPTS?!?" as if we're just an init system anymore, lolHonestly, the level of psyops from these people should inspire the republicans.

R.L. Dane :Debian: :OpenBSD: 🍵 :MiraLovesYou:<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dillo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dillo</a>* weeps uncontrollably in millions-of-lines-of-code complexity projects like <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> and <a href="https://polymaths.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>

Kai Klostermann<a href="https://floss.social/tags/arch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arch</a> community: I want to mount a <a href="https://floss.social/tags/webdav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webdav</a> storage to my filesystem. I want to follow the <a href="https://floss.social/tags/davfs2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#davfs2</a> wiki as described here <a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Davfs2" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Davfs2</a>. I'm a bit confused over the <a href="https://floss.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> section. Do I really have to configure mount units manually? Like I would have expected that it takes whatever is configured in <a href="https://floss.social/tags/fstab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fstab</a>?<a href="https://floss.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://lemmy.world/c/arch_linux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@arch_linux</a>

Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)Good show <a href="https://mastodon.longlandclan.id.au/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> … impatiently keep re-starting a service every few minutes as it's booting up because it's grinding through 5 years of time-series data at start-up and not starting up with the speed of /bin/true.…because mindlessly re-starting it mid-boot is really going to speed that up!

George E. 🇺🇸♥🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️LOL. I thought <a href="https://bofh.social/tags/systemd" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> was supposed to be some sort of panacea. After all, it "replaced" <code>/etc/rc.d/</code> and init scripts! Which have been working just fine for 30+ years for <a href="https://bofh.social/tags/FreeBSD" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> but <a href="https://bofh.social/tags/Linux" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> just had to be different.... And now people are talking about a replacement for systemd. LOL. --- RE: <a href="https://indieweb.social/users/jbz/statuses/115181072547661389" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://indieweb.social/users/jbz/statuses/115181072547661389</a>

jbz🐧 Has the True Alternative to Systemd Just Been Born? | Youtux<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-pRcNku74" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-pRcNku74</a><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/voidlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#voidlinux</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#opensource</a>

No Starch PressBrian Ward’s third edition of How Linux Works offers a clear tour of Linux internals. Follow the path from boot loaders and systemd to processes, devices, filesystems, networking, and shell scripting. Updates include LVM, journald, IPv6, virtualization, containers, and cgroups. A practical reference for admins and developers. <a href="https://nostarch.com/howlinuxworks3" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://nostarch.com/howlinuxworks3</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Sysadmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sysadmin</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DevOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DevOps</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Systemd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Containers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Containers</a>

ADMIN magazineLooking for an alternative to Docker? Holger Reibold shows you how to simplify your migration to Podman <a href="https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2025/86/Simplify-your-migration-from-Docker-to-Podman?utm_source=mam" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2025/86/Simplify-your-migration-from-Docker-to-Podman?utm_source=mam</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Podman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Podman</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Docker</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/license" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#license</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/container" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#container</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FOSS</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#security</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>

Thomas Guyot-Sionnest<a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mcc</a> <a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ariadne</a> If I could name just one irritating thing about <a href="https://noc.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> it's the "external" unit generators that are compiled binaries instead of scripts, I get it's faster but when I came across them I wished I could just test them or modify them on the spot.Other than that it's a learning curve, but I found it sufficiently customisable to fix any issues or implement any service or device fix-up I ever needed. It even manage my user services now (managed and running under my own UID).

Andrew Helwerefffffff systemctl suspend has stopped working on Linux. It works on older NixOS boot entries but not newer ones, and is also broken in Arch Linux, so it really is just a regression that will be broken until someone (me?) takes the time to debug this stuff and get it fixed. Don't have time for this!!!<a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ArchLinux</a> <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/NixOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NixOS</a>

TriMoon<a href="https://martinh.net/@m" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@m</a> nothing wrong here...<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>

Stéphane BortzmeyerC'était bien sûr <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> le gagnant. Il avait tout mis en read-only pour ce processus.

LaF0rgeSo there's a decades-old mechanism (and actual standard) how programs lock serial ports on unix-like systems in /var/lock. it's used in practice even in 2025 and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> >= 258 simply breaks it with "we don't care". I am not a systemd opponent, but that kind of behaviour [without a prior community-wide discussion or providing patches for known-affected projects and a grace period] is just alienating users and developers <a href="https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/38563" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/38563</a> <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110980" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110980</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#debian</a>

argv minus one<a href="https://masto.hackers.town/@cinebox" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cinebox</a> 🤔 What happens if you put a zero-length file in thing.service.wants instead of a symlink? Does that still create a wants dependency, or does it have to be a symlink?<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>

JdeBP<a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@winterschon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@winterschon</a> <a href="https://burningboard.net/@Larvitz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Larvitz</a> Microsoft really has not had anything to do with it. <a href="https://tty0.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> came from RedHat, in reaction to Upstart from Canonical.

Martin Hamilton"Service has successfully entered the dead state" - never change, <a href="https://martinh.net/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a>! :blobfoxdead:

Free Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉Starting with <a href="https://x0f.org/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemd</a> 258, your serial devices may stop working as Systemd unilaterally decides the FHS isn't relevant.<a href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110980" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110980</a> Closed with 'wontfix'.While the <a href="https://x0f.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> kernel has a policy "don't break userspace", systemd doesn't. They just don't care if they break other software; everyone must adapt to their dictates.<a href="https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/devices.rst?h=linux-6.16.y#n198" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/devices.rst?h=linux-6.16.y#n198</a>To stick with 257, you can use this:# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd Package: src:systemd Pin: version 257* Pin-Priority: 1001

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