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@ret @farewell_ladmin well, with #TETRA, the advantage is that it's basically #ETSI trying to make a "secure" #GSM fork and thus TETRA Radios constantly transmit pings like a GSM phone.

  • Espechally the vehicle- and on-persin worn radios as they also act as safety devices, sending distress beacon signals when flipped over (which is why it's explicitly being instructed to always put the radios on a desk in an upright/vertical position and never lay them down when switched on!)…

They are intended to allow personnel to discreetly call for backup and/or be found if they go radio silent or seem incapacitated. They don't transmit vitals but I think we all can agree that a patrol presumably laying on the ground whilst on duty is a clear enough sign for dispatch to send an ambulance and reinforcements.

  • Don't ask me how I know…

So yeah, one can to an extend detect them and it's propably a matter of building some #NeuralNet and train it with passing-by data as well as integrating that with #GNUradio.

  • OFC the results will be best in open countryside at a vantage point than at strert level in a big city.

And whilst it may warn against a regular patrol car, it won't help against #SWAT-esque units like #GSG9 that operate basically exclusively in #DMO mode aka. "direct #PTT" use without registering into a TETRA network, so instead they only get their signal "digipeated" (at most) by local TETRA cells based off the upload frequency and thus only can be located when they transmit.

  • Plus they tend to sometimes use civilian / commercially rented transports for a more stealthy approach, putting an entire platoon on a "boxtruck" van...
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@farewell_ladmin yeah, to crack #TETRA successfully in decent amounts of time, one needs like a "Mining" Rig full of GPUs and run CUDA code, and even that is more of a statistic propability and only gets near-realtime results with delay.

  • I don't bother with that as passive #SIGINT is more effective and merely knowing the relative distance is useful enough.

And it's not as if one can effectively outlaw DVB-T2 recievers anyway...

  • As for precise location one would have to setup some elaborate array with precisely tuned antennas and some quality SDR like the #HackRF instead of #RTLSDR and to some precise timing analysis stuff, and even then this gets complicated in urban areas with higher density of macrocells and indirect multi-way - transmission/reception due to buildings.

Back in February I discovered two vulnerabilities in the TMO-100 TETRA data modem from Piciorgros, a Cologne-based manufacturer. Their reaction during carnival season was stellar. Then it took five months for the #KRITIS operator we worked with to install the updates.

Unauthorized log
data access: rt-solutions.de/piciorgros/Pic

Unauthorized
configuration change via TFTP
(CVE-2025-29617): rt-solutions.de/piciorgros/Pic

CC @HonkHase

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@Boerps doch...

infosec.space/@kkarhan/1150276

Und so ärgerlich es auch ist, so sehe ich die #Korruption eher bei #Strafvereitlern in Ämtern, die bei #CumEx & #CumCum bewusst #Sabotage betreiben.

Dass die #Polizei miserable #ComSec hat ist nix neues...

  • Dank #TETRA ist es umso einfacher, passiv Einsatzkräfte und #Fahrzeuge zu identifizieren!

Dafür braucht's nichtmals groß Technikkenntnisse... Nen Laptop mit SDR# und nem RTL-SDR - Stick auf die Uplink-Frequenzen von TETRA gestellt und schwupps ist nen #CopDetector fertig!

  • Und weil's nen seperates Funknetz ist und kein #GSM gibt's weniger Traffic und weniger Nutzer*innen!
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)Welche? #Merz?? #Piech??? #Quandt???? #Bankster und #NS-Profiteure sind eine weitaus größere Gefahr für die #FDGO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhpZytGvqhc
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@alios Ernsthaft, wie blöde sind manche Leute?

  • Dass auch passive SIGINT machbar wäre ist nix neues, und jede*r die die Specs für #TETRA lesen können sollte klar sein dass das nix anderes ist als #GSM mit proprietärer Verschlüsselung, PTT & Gruppenruf-Funktionalität.

Das wäre mit ner GraKa und nem HackRF nicht passiert...

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@HonkHase Hoffentlich wird die #Bundeswehr für ein #BwSATCOM-3 dann sowas wie #Iridium bzw. #IridiumNext fahren wollen, weil das geht mit überschaubarer Satellitenzahl sehr gut!

Ich rechne allerdings eher damit dass diese ne #TDRS-mäßige Konstellation für #UHFSATCOM & #Xband-#MILSATCOM aufsetzen werden...

  • Bleibt zu hoffen dass es ein offen spezifizierter & sicherer Standard ist und kein proprietärer Bullshit alla #TETRA oder #SCIP...

ROTFL: #Vodafone Germany claiming publicly that TETRA is baesd on 2G, and that 2G can only transport voice: newsroom.vodafone.de/politik-u - don't they have anyone with a bit of technical clue proof-reading such public corporate communication? #telecom #gsm #3gpp #tetra

Sina Dauernheim · Vodafone startet neues virtuelles Sicherheitsnetz für Polizei und RettungskräfteBy Sina Dauernheim

If anyone knows of job openings for some very experienced RF planners, TETRA, LTE, IBS, Outdoor please let me know. A bunch of guys I used to work with are looking for work as their current company is shutting down.

Philippinos who have worked for many years in Qatar, UAE and their home country. I've worked with them for several years and absolutely recommend them

They are willing to move country individually or as a group for the right job. Message me for details.

#tetra#lte#ibwave

At least, the rack is accessible and more in order.

To be done:
- Power
- Antennas
- Internet for linking the 70cm analog repeater.

The Sepura in the box is an SRG3900 #TETRA radio programmed to our 70cm TMO base station, which is connected to the #tetrapack network.
The idea is to offer better indoor coverage with the TMO-DMO gateway.

The Nokia RD58 based analog 70cm repeater is planed to return to service as an experimental internet linked club repeater on R.Net2.