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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@divyaranjan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>divyaranjan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ma.fellr.net/@fell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fell</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@256" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>256</span></a></span> meanwhile consider <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextcloudTalk</span></a>, …</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ip6li" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ip6li</span></a></span> habe grade auch nen Interview abgelehnt, weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> geb' ich mir nicht!</p><ul><li>Ist ja nicht so als hätte ich denen gleich mehrere Alternativen angeboten von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a>) über <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>) und hätte im Bedarfsfalle sogar nen eigenen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>-Server aufgesetzt...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> (+OMEMO = <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>) &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a>) are the better options. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextcloudTalk</span></a> also exist and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> as well as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> offer that.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutions!</p></li><li><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> is just a shittier <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>. Give <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> a try instead.</p></li></ul><p>OfC <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> are also great!</p><p><a href="https://webcall.timur.mobi" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">webcall.timur.mobi</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://swiss.social/@KickDownCH" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>KickDownCH</span></a></span> <em>nickt zustimmend</em></p><p>Gibt ohnehin bessere Optionen als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> seit langem..</p><p>Und damit meine ich nicht die nächste <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zoom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zoom</span></a>, sondern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextcloudTalk</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>) ... </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114455612394610051" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1144556</span><span class="invisible">12394610051</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>theverge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://flipboard.com/@theverge/tech-news-e3qmqbb8z" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tech-news-theverge</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114408031693623764" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">yeah...</a></p><p>Meanwhile I recommend migrating to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and espechally classic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>! </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> fucked up big time, but TBH it was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> doing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbraceExtendExtinguish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmbraceExtendExtinguish</span></a> instead that killed it!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://transfem.social/@puppygirlhornypost2" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>puppygirlhornypost2</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wetdry.world/@kopper" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kopper</span></a></span> granted, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Consoomers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Consoomers</span></a> are just a bad standard to begin with and aligning with the bottom barrel is always gonna lower one's standard.</p><p>People need to realize there's not one perfect app.</p><ul><li>They can have multiple very good options that do their part or one shitty bloatware that does nothing even halfway acceptable. </li></ul><p>The former are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionShare</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a>, …</p><p>The latter one are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/QQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>QQ</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WeChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WeChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iMessage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iMessage</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a>, …</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChooseWisely" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ChooseWisely</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> and even then:</p><p>Modern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Codecs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Codecs</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Speex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Speex</span></a> and espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Opus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Opus</span></a> really work great on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> and other solutions like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a>-Clients like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Unless you're stuck on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Iridium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Iridium</span></a>, then <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Codec2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Codec2</span></a> is the only thing narrowband-efficient enough to work at all...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</em></a></p><ul><li><p>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamSpeak</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> for that matter.</p></li><li><p>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Forum</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>paywalled</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>voicechat</span></a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> &amp; Mumble &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a>!</p></li></ul><p>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dread</span></a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moderation</span></a> tools.</p><ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.</p><p>I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does <em>everything but horrible</em> to go with multiple <em>smaller &amp; good tools</em></p><ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Documentation</span></a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mkDocs</span></a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul><p>Check <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>european_alternatives</span></a></span> for options.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@herrorange" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>herrorange</span></a></span> Already existing options do that better than the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SILK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SILK</span></a> codec.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> client) supports <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Opus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Opus</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Speex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Speex</span></a>, which can do better at narrower bandwiths)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Codec2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Codec2</span></a> OFC can work even on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Iridium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Iridium</span></a>-level bandwiths</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> also do fine on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a>-able bandwiths and don't require a <em>T H I C C</em> install on peoples' devices...</p></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://union.place/@leguinian_utopia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>leguinian_utopia</span></a></span> seriously, people pay for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> when that shit is flakier than the first versions of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> together?</p><ul><li><em>WHY?</em></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hackers.town/@thegibson" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thegibson</span></a></span> I can recommend <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionShare</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> for direct P2P file transfers!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://433.world/@Yuvalne" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Yuvalne</span></a></span> consider <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NextcloudTalk</span></a> (included in <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nextcloud</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nextcloud</span></a> as hosted <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/cloud.service/#confer" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">by</a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> ) as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> (which is even easier to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a>.</p><ul><li>If you only need 1:1 <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Videocalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Videocalling</span></a>, consider <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> <a href="https://timur.mobi/webcall/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">as a secure alternative</a>.</li></ul><p>All 3 use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a> and don't require any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Client" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Client</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Installation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Installation</span></a> whatsoever: They work from any modern <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Browser</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cwebber</span></a></span> yes, and we already have options for that:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a>, etc. for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chat</span></a>.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a>-based comms.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumbke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumbke</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIP</span></a> and other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a> solutions.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionShare</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wormhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wormhole</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/oshi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oshi</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Filesharing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Filesharing</span></a>.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nextcloud</span></a> et. al. for collaboration.</p></li></ul><p>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@devSJR" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>devSJR</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@raiden_fediverse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>raiden_fediverse</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> dabei sehe ich jene <em>"Features"</em> eher als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bloat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bloat</span></a>, weil's bessere Alternativen wie z.B. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> für sichere Videotelefonie, existieren.</p><ul><li>Ewas, was alles kann, kann nix richtig!</li></ul>
F3715H<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@MartinaNeumayer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MartinaNeumayer</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://net4sw.com/@VixenBlu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>VixenBlu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://spookygirl.boo/@thelusciouslibra" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thelusciouslibra</span></a></span> Re: <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> and <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chat</span></a>, I'd still recommend to stick with <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a>, and use <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/monoclesMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesMail</span></a>, <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> , <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> and many other options.</p><p>- One nifty option for <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/VideoTelephony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VideoTelephony</span></a> one may want to look at is <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>: <br><a href="https://timur.mobi/webcall/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">timur.mobi/webcall/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>I got pointed at it since it's very easy to use and unlike <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> they don't demand <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> for registration or record stuff and one can <a href="https://noods.fun/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> it too...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@AdminKirsty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>AdminKirsty</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p>Add to that there are sufficient tools that allow for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>secure</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/communication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>communication</span></a>. </p><ul><li>Like: Even if they don't like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME there's nothing that prevents them from supporting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> or having any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>secure</span></a> means to communicate.</li></ul><p>I do go out of my way to implement better alternatives to existing bad option...</p><ul><li>For example, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> alongside <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> for companies that want or need some auditable and archival <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chat</span></a> solution for internal use... </li></ul><p>TBH, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/unencrypted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unencrypted</span></a> and thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/insecure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>insecure</span></a> communication should disqualify every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/company" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>company</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/organization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>organization</span></a> as a matter or principle and it's high time <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> make support for proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> mandatory, regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2FA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2FA</span></a> or general communications!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@xoron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>xoron</span></a></span> I don't want to discourage you at all - in fact I think your goal is not just noble but also worth aspiring to.</p><ul><li>My recommendation is always to scout out existing solutions, protocols and standards and see if those can be salvaged / used and if not, reason why. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME may seem crusty but a good UI can make it easy. Same.goes for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OTR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OTR</span></a>... </li></ul><p>But whatever you do, please <em>"DO NOT DIY ENCRYPTION!"</em> </p><ul><li>Instead delegate it to drop-in libraries (i.e. crypto++ for C++) that are well, maintained and getting audited.</li></ul><p>Prioritize features early on and make a decision what you want and if/how these can be accomplished. If necessary, have different modes / functions one has to context-switch (i.e. videocalling can't work in an airgapped network unless your callers are in the same (W)LAN).</p><ul><li>If possible choose to stay platform-independent in terms of tech, so like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a>, etc. you can simply package that up with <a href="https://nwjs.io" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">nw.js</a>... (Except if you need like a minimalist, (n)curses-style TUI tool like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>enc</span></a>)</li></ul><p>User-test early on. Espechally with <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a>"</em>, if you can.</p><ul><li>Focus on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MVP</span></a> (<em>minimum viable product</em>) early on. </li></ul><p>Write <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a> early on since that'll remove headaches. And I don't just mean <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CommentYourCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CommentYourCode</span></a> but go deep and explain in detail <em>why</em> you chose something. This will help not just you.</p><ul><li>In terms of <em>"scouting existing solutions"</em> I'd recommend to take a look not just at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, but also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Briar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Briar</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ServalMesh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ServalMesh</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>micahflee</span></a></span>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionShare</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Make yourself a list what you like and dislike from those. </p><ul><li>Same with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linphone</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> and even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WeChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WeChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FacebookMessenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FacebookMessenger</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iMessage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iMessage</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FaceTime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FaceTime</span></a> and god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Don't be afraid if your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a> can't tick all the boxes at first release. Rather feel free to slowly ibtegrate them.</p> <p>Needless to say I do sincerely wish you good luck and only the best in terms of success.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@xoron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>xoron</span></a></span> most of <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@xoron/113537250915068979" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">those features</a> have already been implemented in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a>-based solutions <a href="https://timur.mobi/webcall/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a> <a href="https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">and</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMert</span></a>, abeit like with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> none does all of those things together, and that is somewhat an acceptable tradeoff...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> that's a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Marketing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Marketing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lie</span></a> as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> collects and demands <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> to this day, and unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebRTC</span></a>-based options like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>, one cannot <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> Signal!</p><p>So please stop such bs claims, because they insult the intellect of everyone who's even halfassing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113467293263701678" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1134672</span><span class="invisible">93263701678</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> Still doesn't come close to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JitsiMeet</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>...</p>
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