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Thor A. Hopland<p>Today I got new inspiration regarding <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> (aka the <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a>), when I met an old acquaintance and his friend</p><p>The acquaintance tried to call me a <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/TechBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechBro</span></a>. With some salt, and sugar, I explained what a tech bro was, why I despised them and rolled out a simple explanation of what <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> was.</p><p>His friend was surprised and said he didn't know that such a thing existed. My acquaintance then said he wanted to start his own server.</p><p>I then realized he's probably not the only one in my city.</p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>You stare in awe and disbelief as the child one more time, after many attempts, place their hand on the oven element. "*sigh*... that searing pain? Yeah, that's gonna happen again and again."</p><p>In this analogy I look at the average <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/user" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>user</span></a> as a child that just doesn't learn, because they keep trusting <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/SiliconValley" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SiliconValley</span></a> <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/TechBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechBros</span></a> instead of going to <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a>.</p><p>Angry, disappointed users react to <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a>'s upcoming blue check mark verification system - Neowin<br><a href="https://www.neowin.net/news/angry-disappointed-users-react-to-blueskys-upcoming-blue-check-mark-verification-system/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">neowin.net/news/angry-disappoi</span><span class="invisible">nted-users-react-to-blueskys-upcoming-blue-check-mark-verification-system/</span></a></p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>When it comes to <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/literature" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>literature</span></a>, I'm no literati. I believe there's nothing more homely and common than enjoying a good book. </p><p>This is where <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Bookwyrm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bookwyrm</span></a> comes in. When it comes to <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> platforms and the various "David v Goliath" grudge matches, none are more ambitious than the ones that seek to dethrone <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Bezos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bezos</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/GoodReads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GoodReads</span></a> is owned by <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Amazon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Amazon</span></a> and as such is another <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/SiliconeValley" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SiliconeValley</span></a> trap. Consider dumping it and trying out Bookwyrm.</p><p>Welcome - BookWyrm<br><a href="https://bookwyrm.social/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">bookwyrm.social/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Thor A. Hopland<p><a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> and <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> is the future for the <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>web</span></a>, as any other web <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technology</span></a>, but we must also see how it can be used to create more diversity and opportunity.</p><p>Of course some of you are twitching, because now you're afraid of <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/ActivitySpam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivitySpam</span></a>. It can't be helped though. At some junction that's just going to be a problem no matter what. </p><p>The point is Web Social is a tool to interact with other sites, with audiences, as well as users. Communicating like this encompasses it's purpose.</p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>This way, when I do promotional stuff for the web in future, I'll be taking into account that a domain can be project specific, like say a film that needs promotional static website, and that you don't want to run anything heavy here - because it needs to run for a long time.</p><p>But you might want the facade of <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a>. Like a site having tops 10 posts in it's lifetime - and that's it. All comment functions, all interactive parts of <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> are non functional because it was a one off.</p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>Lately I've been pondering about how to actually create a sustainable business around <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a>, which framed thusly puts the job squarely in the lap of companies that do <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebDesign</span></a> and <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/SysOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysOps</span></a> - where it always belonged.</p><p>It's more typified, normalized and familiar and can then also be viewed in a utilitarian way, in that <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> provides a public broadcasting function via the web.</p><p>Yes inbox, yes outbox, but no braining. Stahp!</p><p>Web Social a tool to broadcast content on the web. Das it.</p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>A <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/platform" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>platform</span></a>, is a platform, is a platform. The user don't care. </p><p>What is that, a <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/CSR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CSR</span></a> on <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/serverless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>serverless</span></a>, an <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/SSR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSR</span></a> hooked up to a <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/VPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPS</span></a> - or maybe you even manage your own <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/kubernetes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>kubernetes</span></a>. Daring, aren't we?</p><p>For some people, this is all static. But, they know what the <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>web</span></a> is. They know that it's where the crawlers live.</p><p>When I look at this chart, I think <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> has a ring to it that might project "Other" into the top 5 - maybe even top 3.</p><p>Why?</p>
Thor A. Hopland<p>(1/7) I have to remember to stop using the hashtag <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a>, because we're supposed to say <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> now instead. Why does that matter? </p><p>Language and optics go hand in hand, and as times have revealed, federation might not be the silver bullet people believe it to be, nor does it actually condense what the underlying technology is about.</p><p>We've essentially created a jungle telegraph in protocol form, that can take <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> into a weird and wonderful future.</p>
cob<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> Soutenez votre instance pour conserver la liberté sans algo ni rachat de millionnaires.ardaires fascistes dans les années à venir :</p><p><a href="https://joinmastodon.org/fr/sponsors" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">joinmastodon.org/fr/sponsors</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mastodon</span></a></span></p>
Aris~**Migration, exil, voyage**<br><br>Dans la mesure où la question de « quitter X/Twitter » refait surface, je vous invite vivement à lire Olivier Ertzscheid (sur <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://mamot.fr/@affordance" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>affordance</span></a></span>), histoire de donner un peu de substance.<br><br>&gt;Pour toutes celles et ceux qui ne peuvent ou ne veulent pas quitter X, il reste la possibilité de prendre racine ailleurs, l’hypertexte et nos hyper-relations et nos hyper-affects le permettent, heureusement. Je ne crois pas que Thread ou Bluesky aient vocation à devenir un de ces ailleurs pérenne mais je n’ai aucune certitude du contraire non plus. <br><br>&gt;J’ai par contre l’absolue conviction que Mastodon, par son architecture décentralisée, par ses règles de modération (différentes selon les « instances » que vous choisirez), par les inter-relations qu’il permet, par son ancrage dans des formes de friction nécessaires en amont des interactions pour en diminuer la toxicité le plus souvent d’abord virale, j’ai la conviction que Mastodon est un biotope d’avenir à préserver et à habiter.<br><br>&gt;Mais ne venez pas sur Mastodon en attendant d’y retrouver les interactions, les relations ou même les affects qui étaient les vôtres sur Twitter ou sur X (ou même sur Thread ou Bluesky), car seule la déception serait alors au rendez-vous.<br><br>Car c’est bien là la véritable question : aller voir ailleurs, ou se perdre dans la nostalgie de Twitter.<br><br>Illustration : « Mother Mushroom with her children », vers 1900, pas Edward Okuń. Cela n’a rien avoir avec l’article, encore que... puisqu’il est question de forêt et d’arbre.<br><br>↪️ X et son exode. Comment quitter une forêt lorsque l'on est un arbre : <a href="https://affordance.framasoft.org/2024/11/x-et-son-exode-comment-quitter-une-foret-lorsque-lon-est-un-arbre/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">affordance.framasoft.org/202...</a><br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/twitter" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Twitter</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/x" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#X</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/xitter" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Xitter</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/threads" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Threads</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/facebook" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Facebook</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tmprs.net/tag/websocial" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSocial</a>
Thor A. Hopland<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sauropods.win/@futurebird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>futurebird</span></a></span> as you heard from me, even <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/Instagram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Instagram</span></a> was a psy-op orgy for the Trump campaign - but there i think it was a bunch of fake accounts and not really Zuckerbergs fault (this time). But I think it's time to push <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> (formally known as the <a href="https://snabelen.no/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a>) even further and welcoming people in.</p><p>The thing that boggles my mind is that people can't see they already have a user base available through it, where they can create service's that can take part in it - without Zuckerberg or Musk.</p>
Tiago F<p>Esse impulso de eliminar a confusão que torna a vida resiliente é o que muitos biólogos conservacionistas chamam de “patologia do comando e controle”. Hoje, o mesmo impulso para centralizar, controlar e extrair levou a Internet ao mesmo destino que as florestas devastadas.</p><p><a href="https://bolha.us/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>internet</span></a> <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/websocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>websocial</span></a> <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/permaculture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>permaculture</span></a> <a href="https://bolha.us/tags/permaculturadigital" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>permaculturadigital</span></a> <br><a href="https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild</span><span class="invisible">-the-internet/</span></a></p>
Ridan Maza 🍜<p><span>Btw, hingga saat ini masih nungguin beberapa akun ikut meramaikan </span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/WebSosial" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSosial</a><span> aka </span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fediverse</a><span><br><br>1. Teguh Aprianto (</span><a href="https://twitter.com/secgron" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span>@secgron</span></a><span>)<br><br>Sebenernya banyak orang-orang di fedi yang fokus berbagi soal keamanan. Tapi yaa emang pengin banget nunggu mas Teguh berbagi di sini<br><br>2. Inge August (</span><a href="https://twitter.com/inge_august" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span>@inge_august</span></a><span>)<br><br>Mau nyimak kontemplasi yang kadang acak, kadang juga bikin ... "oiya, juga ya." Mbak Inge ini penulis buku </span><i><span>Lemon Cake</span></i><span> terbitan Buku Mojok<br><br>3. Indira Nurul Qomariah aka Indira Tendi (</span><a href="https://twitter.com/indiratendi" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span>@indiratendi</span></a><span>)<br><br>Ngomongin konservasi orangutan!<br><br>4. Badminton Talk (</span><a href="https://twitter.com/BadmintonTalk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span>@BadmintonTalk</span></a><span>)<br><br>Yhaa ngomongin Badminton lah<br><br></span><a href="https://calckey.world/tags/WebSocial" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebSocial</a></p>
Rafa Campoamor :verified_gay: 🇪🇺🌹<p>Interesante discusión en <span class="h-card"><a href="https://lemmy.world/c/technology" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>technology</span></a></span> sobre el futuro de las redes sociales: de público a privado, de crecimiento a monetización, de redes sociales a plataformas de entretenimiento. ¿Dónde nos lleva esto? ¿Volveremos a los chats grupales y foros? ¿O encontraremos un nuevo hogar en la red descentralizada? <a href="https://masto.es/tags/WebSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebSocial</span></a> <a href="https://masto.es/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://masto.es/tags/Lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lemmy</span></a></p><p><a href="https://eslemmy.es/post/67413" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">eslemmy.es/post/67413</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>