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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕​<p>When I hear about AI-based programming, I think back several decades to a time when I was dealing with a hairy set of data, and I wrote a pretty complex bit of code generating an even more complex bit of SQL. I don't remember now if it ended up proving useful or not, though I think it did. But that's not the point.</p><p>The point was when I came back to it after a few months ... I couldn't figure it out at all. Neither the generator, nor the generated code.</p><p>And <strong>I HAD WRITTEN IT</strong>. Myself, from scratch, sorting out what I wanted and how to get there.</p><p>There's a principle in programming that debugging and maintenance are far harder than coding. Which means you should never write code that <em>you</em> are <em>too stupid to debug and maintain</em>. Which is precisely what I'd failed in my anecdote.</p><p>And of course, Management, in its infinite wisdom, typically puts far greater emphasis on new development than on testing, or Heavens Forefend!!! <em>maintenance</em>. So all the brightest talent (or so perceived, at any rate) goes to New Development.</p><p>(There's a great essay from about a decade ago, "In Praise of Maintenance, which you, and by "you" I mean "I", should really (re)read: <a href="http://freakonomics.com/podcast/in-praise-of-maintenance-rebroadcast/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">freakonomics.com/podcast/in-pr</span><span class="invisible">aise-of-maintenance-rebroadcast/</span></a>).</p><p>With AI-based code generation, presuming it works at all, we get code that's like computer-chess or computer-Go (the game, not the lang). It <em>might</em> work, but <em>there's no explanation or clarity to it</em>. Grandmasters are not only stumped but utterly dispirited <em>because they can't grok the strategy</em>. </p><p>I can't count the number of times I've heard AI referred to as search or solution without explanation, an idea I'd first twigged to in the late 2010s. That is, if <em>scientific</em> knowledge tells us about <em>causes</em> of things, AI ML GD LLM simply <em>tells us the answer</em> without being able to show its work. Or worse: even if it <em>could</em> show work, that wouldn't tell us anything meaningful.</p><p>(This ... may not be entirely accurate, I'm not working in the field. But the point's been iterated enough times from enough different people at least some of whom <em>should</em> know that I tend to believe it.)</p><p>A major cause of technical debt is loss of institutional knowledge over how code works and what parts do what. I've worked enough maintenance jobs that I've seen this in all size and manner of organisations. At another gig, I'd cut the amount of code roughly in half <em>just so I could run it in the interactive environment which made debugging more viable</em>. I never really fully understood what all of that program did (though I could fix bugs, make changes, and even anticipate some problems which later emerged). Funny thing was when one of the prior Hired Guns who'd worked on the same project before my time there turned up on my front door some years later ... big laughs from both of us...</p><p>But this AI-generated code? It's going to be hairballs on hairballs on hairballs. And at some point it's gonna break.</p><p>Which leaves us with two possible situations:</p><ul><li>We won't have an AI smart enough to deal with the mess.</li><li>Or, maybe, we will. Which as I think of the possibility whilst typing this seems potentially even more frightening.</li></ul><p>Though my bet's on the first case.</p><p><a href="https://toot.cat/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/AiProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AiProgramming</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/Hairballs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hairballs</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/WarStories" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WarStories</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/Maintenance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maintenance</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/TechnicalDebt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechnicalDebt</span></a></p>
Wulfy<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tech.lgbt/@gnat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gnat</span></a></span> </p><p>So I code with ChatGpt/Claude.</p><p>First, it's not like ordinary coding.<br>If you expect to vibe code, you are going to have a very bad time.</p><p>Second. The more definitions you give the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a>, the better.<br>Give parameters what you want to expect.</p><p>Third, spec it. Give as much specifications as you can. You want that text window to scroll?<br>Propose an array or a list structure.<br>Leave as little to imagination as possible, the thing has very little of it and it will try to please you hard, it will make shit up.</p><p>Fourth. Give overall instructions. I usually say something along the lines of "Do not code unless clear instructions are given". Else the thing will launch into code at the first prompt.</p><p>Fifth, I used to get it to Pseudocode. Now I just usually say "Restate the problem". Just to make sure the machine understands what it's doing.</p><p>Checkpoint. When you have code that works, designated it as "Version X.1" because inevitably the machine will fuck it, esp if you're introducing a notable change.</p><p>Seventh, learn <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/promptengineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>promptengineering</span></a>, most people have NFI how to use the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/LLM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LLM</span></a> esp. if they are naturally hostile towards the tech.<br>E.g. If I really want the model to pay attention, I will say something like: DIRECTIVE: Blah blah.</p><p>Lastly, this should go without saying, the free models suck, pay the broligarch tax for the smarter engine.</p><p>It helps if you understand a little how LLMs work, today for example I gave a prompt to just keep latest checkpoint and specs and flush everything else from the session context as it tied itself into knots </p><p>There are other tips.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> </p><p>P.S. If this is not your sport, just mute and move on, don't be rude</p>
IT News<p>Company apologizes after AI support agent invents policy that causes user uproar - On Monday, a developer using the popular AI-powered code editor Cursor not... - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/04/cursor-ai-support-bot-invents-fake-policy-and-triggers-user-uproar/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">arstechnica.com/ai/2025/04/cur</span><span class="invisible">sor-ai-support-bot-invents-fake-policy-and-triggers-user-uproar/</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/aidevelopmenttools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aidevelopmenttools</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/machinelearning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>machinelearning</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/hackernews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hackernews</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/chatbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatbot</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/chatgpt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatgpt</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/chatgtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chatgtp</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/biz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>biz</span></a>⁢ <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/cursor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cursor</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/reddit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reddit</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a></p>
Thoughtworks<p>Can AI-generated code be more concise without losing clarity?</p><p>Our latest blog explores the Claude-Code &amp; CodeConcise experiment, testing how AI balances brevity and readability in <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/SoftwareDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareDevelopment</span></a>: <a href="https://ter.li/89qckd" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">ter.li/89qckd</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/GenerativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GenerativeAI</span></a> <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/AIProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIProgramming</span></a> <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/LLM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LLM</span></a> <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/SoftwareEngineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SoftwareEngineering</span></a> <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/Tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tech</span></a> <a href="https://toot.thoughtworks.com/tags/Blog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Blog</span></a></p>
LavX News<p>Revolutionizing Workflows: How Vercel's v0 Empowers Every Professional</p><p>In a world where technology often divides the skilled from the novice, Vercel's v0 emerges as a game-changer, allowing anyone to design, build, and innovate without needing extensive technical know-ho...</p><p><a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/revolutionizing-workflows-how-vercel-s-v0-empowers-every-professional" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.lavx.hu/article/revolutio</span><span class="invisible">nizing-workflows-how-vercel-s-v0-empowers-every-professional</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebDevelopment</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NoCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NoCode</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AIProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIProgramming</span></a></p>
Joaquim Homrighausen<p>.. continued ..</p><p>I've been coding since the mid 1980's and was wondering how other developers think about the potential issues with "AI" generated code possibly including parts of, or whole, pieces of code that is covered by an Open Source license like GPLv2 or AGPLv2, without you knowing it.</p><p>Regardless companies' and people's disclaimers, etc, this, to me, seems like a potential can of worms, from a legal perspective, no? 🤔</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>programmer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/license" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>license</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a></p>
Joaquim Homrighausen<p>I'm still at the "entry level" (or "LEGO-level" as I'd like to call it) when it comes to "AI". I do find it interesting, and even (sometimes) fascinating. I'm not so impressed with some of the "code solutions" presented by Code Copilot (ChatGPT), but that's probably just me.</p><p>.. continued ⬇️ ..</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/programmer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>programmer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/license" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>license</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/aicode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aicode</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/code" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>code</span></a></p>
IT News<p>Google CEO says over 25% of new Google code is generated by AI - On Tuesday, Google's CEO revealed that AI systems now generate more than a... - <a href="https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/google-ceo-says-over-25-of-new-google-code-is-generated-by-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">arstechnica.com/ai/2024/10/goo</span><span class="invisible">gle-ceo-says-over-25-of-new-google-code-is-generated-by-ai/</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/largelanguagemodels" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>largelanguagemodels</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/machinelearning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>machinelearning</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/googlegemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>googlegemini</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/aicoding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aicoding</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/tooluse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tooluse</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/biz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>biz</span></a>⁢ <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>google</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a></p>
Wulfy<p>A small part of my <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CodingWithAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CodingWithAI</span></a> project. It is the first time I am using an <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> API and honestly, I am shell shocked how amazingly powerful and easy this is!</p><p>This part of my project looks at scripts on a website, and submits to <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/claudeai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>claudeai</span></a> <br>The name, asking for popularity and security estimates as well as a 5 word functional description.</p><p>I am using the haiku Claude LLM because it's the simplest and I'm cheap.</p><p>(The text in pink is returned from AI)<br><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/promptengineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>promptengineering</span></a></p>
Madelen<p>I tried the VsCode extension Cody to do some AI coding for me. I made it make this shitty website. Idk, felt like making something stupid. <br><a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/aiprogramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aiprogramming</span></a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/shittycode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>shittycode</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://lyxminxx.github.io/shittyTerminal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lyxminxx.github.io/shittyTermi</span><span class="invisible">nal</span></a></p>
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