Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@char" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>char</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://m.benui.ca/@ben" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ben</span></a></span> as shit as it sounds, <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/learning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>learning</span></a>"</em> isn't something unique to humans or mammals.</p><ul><li>Ethics aside re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WastefulComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WastefulComputing</span></a>, a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/machine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>machine</span></a> cannot create <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> works because it legally can't have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/authorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>authorship</span></a> and thus not bear any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyright</span></a>.</li></ul><p>If you have read the article linked you would've seen that trying to <em>"curb in"</em> and crimimalize <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MachineLearning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MachineLearning</span></a> would basically shoot research and studying in the foot - with a fully loaded stechkin set on fully-automatic - and then wounder why there's blood on the floor...</p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonarchitect</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://turtleisland.social/@csgraves" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>csgraves</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://rubber.social/@gearlicious" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gearlicious</span></a></span> both is true:</p><ul><li><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a>"</em> can't violate <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyright</span></a>.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scraping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scraping</span></a> is not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CopyrightInfringement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CopyrightInfringement</span></a>!</li><li>Machine-generated output is not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> because it doesn't have a human author...</li><li>If we deem <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/learning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>learning</span></a></em> as copyright <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/infringement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>infringement</span></a> then we'd all be perpetual <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DebtPeons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DebtPeons</span></a> to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Contentmafia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Contentmafia</span></a>!</li></ul><p>I do however condemn the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WastefulComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WastefulComputing</span></a> for wannabe-<em>"AI"</em> that doesn't add anything meaningful to society and the world in general: Just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NFTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NFTs</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cryptocurrency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cryptocurrency</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoins</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@djlink" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>djlink</span></a></span> Which is funny because in many juristictions like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> can't create <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> output by the fact that only a natural person can have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Authorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Authorship</span></a> and ony things with Authorship have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyright</span></a>. </p><p>But then again we also don't have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PublicDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicDomain</span></a> but only permissible licenses and lapsed Copyright as one can't abdicate or deny Authorship!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@dalfen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dalfen</span></a></span> I hope none of these will apply, but since only natural persons can create <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> works in many juristictions, expect the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/contentmafia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>contentmafia</span></a> to try their hardest <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/lobbying" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lobbying</span></a> for it...</p><p>Just like making cracking <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DRM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DRM</span></a> a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/felony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>felony</span></a> higher penalized than <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/piracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>piracy</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@ppatel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ppatel</span></a></span> is in line woth other juristictions:</p><p>Whilst <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> doesn't require any registration for something to have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyright</span></a>, only natural persons can create <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> material.</p><p>A program like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StableDiffusion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StableDiffusion</span></a> does not have personhood, thus cannot create "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>art</span></a>" that has any protections whatsoever.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://lingo.lol/@Neverfadingwood" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Neverfadingwood</span></a></span> I find it appaling that they want to see "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyright</span></a>" for an "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a>" writing.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Machines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Machines</span></a> aren't natural persons and thus cannot create <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> works!</p><p>Heck they ain't even legal persons and could not even license or acquire any property - intellectual or material...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tiffanycli" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tiffanycli</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@harikunzru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>harikunzru</span></a></span> As much as people hate it:</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/scraping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>scraping</span></a> doesn't violate <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyright</span></a> nor can an <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> create <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/copyrightable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyrightable</span></a> material since it lacks <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/personhood" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>personhood</span></a>.</p>
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