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#correlationisnotcausation

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Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦<p>Yet another study about how "ultraprocessed foods" (UPF) will kill us.</p><p>I am very sceptical of all such studies. The definition of UPF seems rather arbitrary, but mostly, if you were trying to define a food group that maximised the chances of confounding by lifestyle and socioeconomic factors in any analysis, I'm pretty sure it would look much like the definition we have.</p><p>It's probably being poor that kills you, not UPF.</p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm30kwvv17o" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm30k</span><span class="invisible">wvv17o</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/UltraprocessedFoods" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UltraprocessedFoods</span></a></p>
A.Stringer<p>"Reducing the issue to isolated <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/variables" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>variables</span></a>, where the solution might appear to be to introduce a new <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/policy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>policy</span></a> (like banning <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smartphones</span></a>) follows a technocratic logic that could turn <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/goodhealth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>goodhealth</span></a> into a matter for experts.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Youngpeople" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Youngpeople</span></a> were becoming more anxious long before <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>socialmedia</span></a> – here’s the evidence<br><a href="https://theconversation.com/young-people-were-becoming-more-anxious-long-before-social-media-heres-the-evidence-243738#Echobox=1736884297" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">theconversation.com/young-peop</span><span class="invisible">le-were-becoming-more-anxious-long-before-social-media-heres-the-evidence-243738#Echobox=1736884297</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/interpretingdata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interpretingdata</span></a><br><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/correlationisnotcausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>correlationisnotcausation</span></a> <br><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>science</span></a><br><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/mentalhealth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mentalhealth</span></a></p>
Sjaak K. 🇳🇱🇪🇺<p>Neeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!</p><p>Niet meegedaan aan de Dam-tot-Damloop!!! En nu heeft er een Ethiopiër gewonnen!</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.nl/tags/correlationisnotcausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>correlationisnotcausation</span></a></p>
Potung Thul<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://thecanadian.social/@MostlyHarmless" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>MostlyHarmless</span></a></span></p><p>Oh, this one is way too precious not to have <a href="https://toot.io/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AltText</span></a>! Let me <a href="https://toot.io/tags/Alt4You" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Alt4You</span></a>.</p><p>Single panel comic:<br>Teacher points to main point of lesson written on blackboard:<br>"Every single person who confuses correlation and causation ends up dying. "</p><p><a href="https://toot.io/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a></p>
Rebecca Sear<p>EHBEA 2024 is going fabulously well, and also it’s possible to have 6 desserts for lunch in France 😃😋 <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a></p>
Helena Klara Jambor<p>Everyone, drop what you are doing - SPURIOUS CORRELATION now has a companion site, SPURIOUS SCHOLAR - that WRITES AN ACADEMIC PAPER based on the spurious correlation! Because "if p &lt; 0.05, why not publish?" 😂 </p><p><a href="https://tylervigen.com/spurious-scholar" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">tylervigen.com/spurious-schola</span><span class="invisible">r</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Academic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Academic</span></a> publishing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DataScience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DataScience</span></a> <br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DataViz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DataViz</span></a></p>
Court Cantrell prefers not to<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/@bytebro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bytebro</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://beige.party/@RickiTarr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>RickiTarr</span></a></span> Oh sweet RBG preserve us, there needs to be an ENTIRE TWO-SEMESTER COURSE on this concept in high schools!</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a></p>
Your Autistic Life FR/EN/ES<p>"New study shows 18% productivity decline by those working from home"</p><p>Color me skeptical. My reasons:</p><p>1. This "study" is a "working paper" and not peer-reviewed.</p><p>2. They claim to have accounted for accuracy in the paper, but doing this is notoriously hard. They could easily have made mistakes when they looked at accuracy.</p><p>(By "accuracy" I mean the accuracy of the data entry. You've gained nothing if you're going faster in the office, but also make more mistakes.)</p><p>3. Correlation is not causation.</p><p>4. Correlation is not causation.</p><p>5. Correlation is not causation.</p><p>If I had a dime for every crackpot who confuses correlation and causation, I'd be a rich man.</p><p>Illustration: some study shows that there is a correlation between taking a 30-minute walk per day, and better health. Someone latches onto this and says that everyone should walk 30 minutes per day to improve their health. They did not account for the fact that people who are healthy in the first place are those capable to take a walk every day. Nor do they account for the fact that those people who can afford the walk probably have money. When you have to work two jobs, the walk goes out the window. So it is not the daily walks that make people healthy, it is being healthy and having money that makes people able to take the walks.</p><p>I'm not at all convinced that there NOT is something else at play in this "study" and that correlation and causation have been confused.</p><p>I don't have proof of this, only an inkling. I've gone very quickly over the study.</p><p><a href="https://mast.yourautisticlife.com/tags/WorkFromHome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WorkFromHome</span></a> <a href="https://mast.yourautisticlife.com/tags/CorrelationIsNotCausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CorrelationIsNotCausation</span></a> <a href="https://mast.yourautisticlife.com/tags/WorkingPaper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WorkingPaper</span></a> <a href="https://mast.yourautisticlife.com/tags/PeerReview" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PeerReview</span></a> <a href="https://mast.yourautisticlife.com/tags/NBER" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NBER</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.techspot.com/news/99738-new-study-shows-18-decrease-productivity-working-home.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">techspot.com/news/99738-new-st</span><span class="invisible">udy-shows-18-decrease-productivity-working-home.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w31515/w31515.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">nber.org/system/files/working_</span><span class="invisible">papers/w31515/w31515.pdf</span></a></p>
Léo Varnet<p>Tired of these studies overstating the results by confusing <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/correlation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>correlation</span></a> and <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/causation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>causation</span></a>. A recent <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/PNAS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PNAS</span></a> paper (co-authored by D. Kahneman!) starts with the question "can money buy happiness?"... and does no offer any evidence of a <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/causal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>causal</span></a> relationship <a href="https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2023/08/01/studying-average-associations-between-income-and-survey-responses-on-happiness-be-careful-about-deterministic-and-causal-interpretations-that-are-not-supported-by-these-data/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu</span><span class="invisible">/2023/08/01/studying-average-associations-between-income-and-survey-responses-on-happiness-be-careful-about-deterministic-and-causal-interpretations-that-are-not-supported-by-these-data/</span></a> <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/stats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>stats</span></a> <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/statistics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>statistics</span></a> <a href="https://qoto.org/tags/correlationisnotcausation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>correlationisnotcausation</span></a></p>
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