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KaiXin<p>More tests today: Following <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/OpenBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a> and <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a>, I tried <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/NetBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetBSD</span></a> on my laptop today. I never expected but it was the best ever. <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/XDM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XDM</span></a> started out of box with a nice <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/CTWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CTWM</span></a> sesssion after login, WiFi connects after a few lines ifconfig commands. Suspending to S3 worked but resume resulted in no keyboard or touchpad response. Will look into this. <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/UseBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UseBSD</span></a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Unix</span></a> <a href="https://m.otter.homes/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a></p>
R. L. Dane :Debian:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@slembcke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>slembcke</span></a></span></p><p>I mean, I totally get that if you only ever use gnome.</p><p>If you don't care to use Gnome because:</p><ol><li>Poor contrast between active and inactive window titlebars is a usability nightmare that was fixed in the early 1980s and broken in the past five years for no good reason</li><li>Client-side decorations are another foolish kill-usability-for-shallow-aesthetics fad that needs to die</li><li>You want a configurable system. It's <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UNIX</span></a>, dagnabbit.</li><li>You'd prefer a more lightweight system (not as big a deal as it was 5 years ago, props to them for making it a lot more efficient)</li></ol><p>..and so you find yourself using <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/kde" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a>, or <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/i3wm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>i3wm</span></a>, or <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/sway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sway</span></a>, or heck, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/jwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jwm</span></a>, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/twm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>twm</span></a>, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/ctwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ctwm</span></a>, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/cwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cwm</span></a>, <a href="https://alpha.polymaths.social/tags/icewm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>icewm</span></a>, or whatever...</p><p>...and you open a Gnome app. What do you get? An application that's integrated nicely with the rest of your system? Heck no! You get an app that sticks out like a sore thumb. Honestly, everything that happens <em>within</em> the application window is up to the devs, and I don't begrudge whatever style you use there. But taking over the titlebar I simply will not tolerate.</p><p>Honestly, if not for the CSDs, I'd never complain about Gnome. I'd use whatever (ethical) solution works best for my workflow and go about my day. But now using gnome apps feels like it's an advertisement for a cult-like mentality. I open Gnome Web, or Gnome Disks, Gnome Boxes, or whatnot, and boom, I'm lost. Where's my titlebar color? Gone. Which window is active? No blasted idea.</p><p>Sorry for the rant, I just really can't stand that. Other than that, I could say a lot of positive things about gnome. I'm glad they're there. But the mentality is feeling more cultish/corporate all the time.</p>
Juno<p>It's alive! Though I had given up yesterday, after a few tries today I got NetBSD 10 running. Though booting is still a bit flaky and I am investigating freezes, I may resurrect this one after all. I could replace the Sony VAIO keyboard, but I just like this one's keys much better than the Sony's island keyboard.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>netbsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/ctwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ctwm</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/x11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>x11</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/tmux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tmux</span></a></p>
Rhialto<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@RL_Dane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>RL_Dane</span></a></span> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/ctwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ctwm</span></a> config files can also be processed by <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/m4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>m4</span></a>. And it can do opaque moves and resizes. That even has the advantage that the display doesn't need to be locked for displaying the wireframe.</p>