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Mx. Luna CorbdenAn excerpt from the most recent issue of ICSA Today, on how to help someone escape coercive indoctrination, by Dr. Janja Lalich, one of the cult researchers I quote in Recovering Agency.In short, DON'T PREACH. DON'T ARGUE. Instead, show someone what having a choice looks like."Effective Intervention Approaches"1. Creating Safe Spaces for Ambivalence: Rather than demanding immediate recognition of abuse or control, effective intervention allows people to safely explore their doubts without threatening their entire meaning system at once. This might mean supporting someone in questioning specific practices while temporarily accepting their continued commitment to the group’s core beliefs."2. Reconnecting with One’s Pre-Group Identity: Helping individuals reconnect with aspects of their identity that preceded their involvement in the totalistic environment. This isn’t about erasing their experience but about expanding their frame of reference beyond the bounded system. I describe this as doing something that will hopefully tug at their emotional heart strings, reawakening thoughts, feelings, memories that have been suppressed by the group’s indoctrination processes."3. Addressing Practical Constraints: Understanding that bounded choice operates through both ideological and practical constraints. Effective intervention often requires addressing concrete obstacles to leaving—financial dependencies, fear of social isolation, lack of practical life skills—along with psychological barriers."4. Building Alternative Support Systems: Recognizing that totalistic environments become self-reinforcing partly because they meet real human needs for belonging and meaning. Intervention must include helping individuals find alternative sources for these needs."<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/MindControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MindControl</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenThere's an aspect of <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/CPTSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CPTSD</a> I don't see much discussed or even studied, but you can bet that whoever is causing the CPTSD thinks of it this way, either with conscious awareness or not:Behavior modification.That's what really separates PTSD, say from a random act of violence, from complex PTSD that affects almost every area of one's life.CPTSD is a result of a behavior modification program. An abuser or abusive system conditioned you to believe and behave a certain way, often many sets of behaviors across most areas of your life. That's what makes something a cult or a high-demand group. That's what makes for a domestic abuse situation – it's in the things they force you to do.The recovery focus tends to be on the trauma itself -- ok we're in sympathetic nervous state, let's unpack triggers, get coping skills, EMDR, meditation, calm you down. Fine.But rarely (outside of cult exit counseling) have I seen much focus on the BELIEFS an abuser or system has instilled in us. Beliefs that modify behavior. That sense that if I touch a hot stove I'll be burned, but it's not a stove, it's normal everyday things that I can't avoid and I'm wandering an inescapable maze of pain-points.Address the beliefs themselves.It's a major gap in how PTSD is treated in our culture. EVEN the helping professional community is so bogged down in these abuse culture assumptions (that trauma is "in the past," that the abusers are no longer present, that it's just a nervous system thing, just process the trauma events) that they often ignore the set of interlocking ever-present beliefs, and they ignore the very aspects of society we're just supposed to tolerate (bad workplaces, chronic stress, toxic religious beliefs).What did my abuser make me *believe* about myself? What did my toxic religion make me believe about the world? How do I view reality through an abuser-provided lens?<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fascism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/antifa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#antifa</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Abuse</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/PTSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PTSD</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a>

Mx. Luna Corbdenlol looks like I was on about this last week when I was editing these letters. Probably the same letter. Because the behavior of a bishop and stake president towards a child in this case is not excusable. *I* am angry at them and I wasn't even there.But I do understand that impulse to excuse and lay palm fronds in the path of my abusers. Very, very much.<a href="https://defcon.social/@corbden/114275598543827504" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://defcon.social/@corbden/114275598543827504</a><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fascism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/antifa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#antifa</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Abuse</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenBut that's just a (conspiracy) THEORY!<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/HandsOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HandsOff</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenThere's a reason why cults can get away with just about any crime in this society. And it isn't the First Amendment.Cults serve an important function for the establishment:They get passionate, principled people out of circulation, directing all that Change-the-World energy towards bullshit. Cults protect the status quo.(You'll notice it's generally only the cults with large arsenals that they ever go after. I see you Janet Reno.)<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/HandsOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HandsOff</a>

Mx. Luna Corbdenidk I guess I'd like to think that some of the folks in that photo read Recovering Agency, got over a bunch of their pain and confusion, and were able to attend that protest because of it.Based on feedback I've gotten in the past, this is very likely true.And that's why I want to restore my health, so I can do more of that. That's my calling. That's what stirs my spirit.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDS</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/HandsOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HandsOff</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenThat said, there's also a lot of authoritarianism running through Mormon doctrines, and those with authoritarian mindsets glom onto those ideals instead.They have their eye on a Utah theocracy, just like ol' Brother Brigham once ruled over. And many of them are in Utah government and police. So I also wouldn't be surprised if that comes to blows.The prophecy about separating the wheat from the chaff has never felt so poignant, so imminent. <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDS</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/HandsOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HandsOff</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenThat photo of the Utah protest keeps going around. Social media and news outlets are all surprised for some reason.I'm not. Not at all. That's because 1. I was raised LDS and know the fire they implanted in people like me to stand for what is right, and 2. I've followed activism in Mormon spaces for the last two decades, and know that when educated on these issues, nuanced Mormons and exmormons bring all that fire with them. They've been largely working within Mormon spaces to change the Church and help those wounded by it, and have accomplished amazing things, moving the mountain that is the world's wealthiest religion with hardly a mustard seed.Most of the base values Mormonism teaches are perfect for anti-Trumpism. The Book of Mormon is anti-monarchy and pro-liberty. The driving core doctrine is "free agency." The world after Jesus returns is basically a functioning global commune.This is why I've chosen to work in this space as my own activism, my calling, to heal Mormons and exmormons of their trauma, teach them critical thinking, educate them on these issues, expose them to progressive ideas, and then they'll have the energy for changing the wider world. We were reared to change the world, pushed to magnify our talents, taught to be leaders, shown how to organize, and then they chained us to a hamster wheel of useless activity that did the opposite of changing the world. Once released from that hamster wheel, we are a force to be reckoned with.So yeah, folks in Utah are gonna show up. Don't underestimate the Mormons.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/HandsOff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HandsOff</a><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDS</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenAfter all, the God of the Christian Bible as widely interpreted is awfully authoritarian. You couldn't find a better example of squishy principles, double-standards, might makes right, the ends justify the means, cruelty is the point, justice as defined by punishment, punishment that vastly outsizes the crime, transactional love, exclusion as a definitive value, hierarchy based on birthright as the perfect system, torture as a test of character, speaking love but not practicing it...Almighty makes Alrighty. It's a perfect fit for abusers. They shaped God into that figure, as the Bible was being written thousands of years ago, in how it was translated and encoded into traditions centuries ago, and in how they interpret it today. Whether at the top of the chain as a prophet or pope, or in the downline as a impoverished drunk who beats his kids, authoritarians are preferenced in the religious culture that has claimed a monopoly on love and morality.And nobody really wins. Not the prophet or pope, and not the impoverished drunk or his kids. After a time, the system is the only entity that "wins" as it feeds on every human being involved.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenHave you ever thought to yourself, "You know, I could just *stop* trying to be a good person, or stop trying to do X thing they say I'm supposed to do... I could just lie and go on doing that thing"? And then you probably decided, naw, my reasons for doing the good thing are fairly solid, so I will keep trying to do what I'm supposed to even if it's hard."Yeah, there are people who take the other fork. They stop trying to be kind, or be honest, or be giving, or trying to protect the weak, or any of those things. They decide that so long as they don't *get caught* they'll be fine.Religion is supposed to help with that problem, because God knows everything and the myth goes that they'll be caught in the end. But there are many, many ways for a determined person to weasel their way out of that threat. Either they stop believing that myth and instead of leaving they stay and *pretend* to believe, or they rationalize that the ends according to them justify the means, or that they're inherently such a good person it's ok if they bend the rules now and then.They took a different fork than you took. And they exist. They're out there. Or *in here*, wherever here is to you. And they get very, very good a lying.Religious settings are perfect for them, because it's easier to lie about things that can't be seen, touched, heard, or proven. The Bible says this, God wants that, I had a dream, I felt prompted, and all the people who took the fork of continuing to try, but who believe the Bible and God? They eat it up. That's why Christianity in the US is a bastion of Abuse Culture. Because this cycle has been going on for thousands of years. <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenFor clarity, I am not dishing on the letter writers. Trust is not a crime. Naivety is not a crime. Giving one's best shot at defending someone from a miscarriage of spiritual justice is not a crime. Processing things with what you know about this world is not a crime. Their words will (editor willing) go into this book and stand as testament against religious authoritarianism, and against President Daley specifically. I am simply referencing their approach as a way to educate on how we do need to change our thinking, in that someone who acts the way Daley did is not persuadable using ideas like "compassion" because he doesn't understand that worldview the way you and I do. And we need to get wise to that so they can stop running the world.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenLearning about the abuser mindset makes me read differently the arguments people make in seeking justice or trying to get people and systems to stop being abusive.When abuse is the point, "Stop doing this because it's harming people" won't work.My client, Natasha Helfer, was excommunicated from the LDS Church for a number of things, including calling out abuse of authority. I'm editing letters of support people sent that Stake President, for inclusion in the book. They're like, "I'm a true believer, please don't excommunicate Sister Helfer, this is how she helped me escape abuse, or helped my daughter process her assault, or helped my gay kid, or saved my mental health from debilitating shame," and I'm reading them with President Daley's authoritarian mind (yeah, sue me, prick, your actions are clear), or with the mind of "the system," and like, naw, hun, this will not phase an abuser, who thinks you deserved it, your child needs to change, that guy is an acceptable casualty for the Lord, and haha you suckers you haven't even begun to figure out how this works, have you?And I was thinking last night about the word "predator" while watching a homesteading show. Where the bears and cougars had people crying and ready to give up. You think "predator" is an insult to someone who does those things to women and kids? Naw, hun, that's a BADGE OF HONOR to some of those creeps. They like people crying and running around helplessly failing to stop them. They get off more on that than on the predation. Even better when they can trick a congregation full of "christlike" people to defend them and heap further abuse on a victim.Some abusers are unconscious, and maybe this kind of language might sway them or at least shame them. For sure. But the ones who are fully aware of who they are? Who have created an entire worldview around their impulses? All of this pain and chaos is the point.That's <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a>.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a>

Still Mad About CD PricesHow to make a White Russian like a former <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> (with apologies for US non-metric measurements)<ul><li>Glass bigger than you think you need</li><li>Ice</li><li>2-3 oz. vodka</li><li>1.5-2 oz. coffee liqueur</li><li>Splash of half & half or light cream (about 2 tbsp)</li><li>Soy, almond, or oat milk: about the same volume as the alcohol in the glass.</li></ul>I assume none of this is unknown or fancy, but this is how I've come to like White Russians. I find them yum.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/alcohol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#alcohol</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/recipe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#recipe</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a>

Mx. Luna Corbden31 And the LORD turned to a secret fourth servant and asked what he had done with the ten talents he had been given.32 And thus did the secret fourth servant say, 33 "I have invested thy talents, and indeed have gone door to door, and sent mine men door to door, to all of thy people, yea, even the rich, and the poorest among them, yea even the widows and orphans, prophesying unto them, saying their LORD will come upon them and smite them with an evil curse for all eternity if they didst not render unto me ten percent of their own talents, the product of their toil and the sweat of their brows, and I have invested this as well, and I return to thee, oh LORD, with two hundred billion talents."34 "Jesus Fucking Christ," sayeth the LORD. "What the fuck is wrong with thee?35 "For thou didst pillage those who had not, those unto whom thou shouldst have given thine all. 36 "Now it would seem easier for thee to go through a camel's ass who is himself going through the eye of a needle than for thou to enterest into my kingdom. Fucking hells man, what is wrong with thee?? Get out of mine fucking sight."Matthew 25, lost translation<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenChurch that's richer than Heavenly Father (and every other church in the world) soon could live on the interest from its more than $200b of investments, but naw, will require tithes anyway because it's in the Book of Malachi and they're saving up treasures in heaven for you! A couple billion more is always nice, so pay up your tithing even if your cupboard is bare! After all, the Prophet isn't selfish! He doesn't want to hoard all those blessings to himself!<a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/</a>No paywall:<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20250401171040/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20250401171040/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/</a><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDSPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDSPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDS</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenWith a Living Prophet, Seer, and Revelator™ able to see what mere men cannot, LDS Church rushes to do bare minimum of what other Utah churches are already doing to meet demands of new state law to protect children from predators.<a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/</a>(Subtext: The "helpline" mentioned at the bottom of the article is historically just a dedicated legal team who will rush in and cover-up any scandals before the church's good image can be sullied. Nelson's words are so, so empty. Yes, Brother, sic Jesus on 'em. That'll save the children.)(Also, fuck Nelson. Support Protect Every Child and other advocacy groups! <a href="https://protecteverychild.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://protecteverychild.com</a> )No paywall:<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20250401172927/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20250401172927/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/</a><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UTPol</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LDS</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/CSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSA</a>

The Flight Attendant<a href="https://med-mastodon.com/@bicmay" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bicmay</a> Wow! I had no idea Jacinda Ardern, former PM was ex LDS! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/exMormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exMormon</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenThis is a long way to say: If you don't understand the effects of cognitive dissonance, and don't unpack your own internal contradictions, you can be more easily manipulated into behaviors and beliefs you would not *consciously* agree with.If you like free agency and are a big fan of free will, this is the sort of thing you need to work on.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#philosophy</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/atheism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atheism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/theism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#theism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a>

Mx. Luna CorbdenTheological concepts like "The Problem of Evil" aren't just atheist gotchas. The contradictions within certain theologies can exist unawares within the minds of believers, causing dissonance that comes out in ways that perpetuate and allow harms to continue.For instance, even if a Christian believer has not consciously considered the Problem of Evil, they will still feel this contradiction whenever it is encountered:1. God is good. 2. God is omnipotent. 3. God allows evil to exist.They will have many sideways methods of resolving this discomfort, which will vary from person to person and from situation to situation.They may, for instance, lean on Just World views (the feeling that the world is automatically fair and so if someone is disadvantaged they must have done something to deserve it) when it comes to LGBTQ issues. God is good, and omnipotent, so if a queer person is suffering, it isn't because their church community has stigmatized them or because church doctrines about God's will are wrong (or further, that God might not exist or might not be good), no it must be proof that being queer is sinful and they deserve their suffering. This same formula applies in many other areas, including towards abuse victims.The contradictions within many popular forms of theism are not harmless. They get resolved, usually unconsciously, by organizations and individuals. When they are resolved without mindful consideration of the consequences, people get hurt.For abusers and powertrippers? This is by design, to their benefit, and more likely to be conscious.<a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AbuseCulture</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ReligiousTrauma</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmo</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvie</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exvangelical</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/theism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#theism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/atheism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atheism</a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#philosophy</a>

Still Mad About CD PricesI'm still on <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/facebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#facebook</a> * and I have a few acquaintances who post stuff that is both frustrating for the rational and post-religious parts of my brain and also reassuring, because apparently there would be plenty of clients if I need to fully sell out and become a psychic for cash.<ul><li>for friends and family updates and to post "WTF is wrong with you?" political memes until I get banned</li></ul><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#exmormon</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/religion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#religion</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/woo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#woo</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/cognitivebiases" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cognitivebiases</a>

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