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The various issues with quote-posts on Mastodon that nobody on Mastodon is aware of; CW: long (almost 6,800 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta, Mastodon looking bad in comparison with the rest of the Fediverse, quote-post meta

If I had 1¢ for each person I talked to on #Fediverse just once that never came back on ever ..

I'd probably have like 30.
Which is not much.
Butnits weird it happened 30 ti-..


Oh this is #boring.

But #Fedi user retention is really low.
The lack of #intrusive #ads and #loud #angry mobs must really scare people off.

Anyways here is #Greenday : *click*

#repost •acws #acws #mastodon #twitter #akkoma #firefish #calckey #whateverelsethereis

Overall my UX since opening this #Sharkey #BlahajZone account has been quite lovely, but there are various papercuts & frictions all the same. In earlier posts i've mentioned various #Antenna hassles [wrt efficiently managing all my #FollowedHashtags]. The way that Sharkey's own text formatting [#MFM] does not follow standard #Markdown practices in some cases, thus looking not as i intended when viewed in non-Sharky instances, is another issue.

The most recent PITA, albeit it's been present all along, only in recent days seems rather worse, is repeat failures of my two
#List timelines to load at all [see attached pic of the common result], & in between these frequent failures, i experience much latency trying to get posts to accept my Likes, or to invoke the [excellent] Search function, or various other commonplace UI interactions. This morning in particular it is, frankly, terrible.

Towards the end, i now recall that my old
#Firefish instances also suffered this repeat failure of timelines to load, & other-while large latency, so having it now be my multiple-times-each-day experience here is pretty alarming. However even if not fatal, it poses a significant usability liability... after all, each time i retry my #Friendica instance i eventually keep returning to Masto coz Friendica's latency drives me batty.

Despite once again clearing the cache & doing multiple page reloads, as i am about to post this whinge, one of my timelines has still errored-out rather than loaded. This is galling, & i feel myself on the verge of returning to my Masto-Statuzer instance once again. Tis a pity.

cc:
@blahaj

I think we're back to the "where to move this account" question. (and I have yet to find an answer.)

- First, when Firefish died, I thought the answer was going to be the new
#Iceshrimp, but it's been more than a year and I'm not sure it's going to be a thing ever. (And I never fully liked Sharkey, for reasons)

- Next, I tried
#Akkomane. I thought it was going to be the place, but a few things were deal breakers (I forgot which ones, whoops... but they did greatly bother me at the time)

- Then came
#Wafrn. Despite the unpractical name, I love the idea (it uses both ActivityPub and ATProtocol natively), but the UI is just not for me.

- I've been waiting for
#Ghost 6.0 release for a little while now. It's imminent. However, it doesn't seem that they will release a full #microblogging platform. I doubt that it'll be much different from the beta (which is great, but can't replace a full-blown platform)

- And I'm extremely interested in
#Bonfire, but it won't be ready for users like me for another few months I believe...

Meanwhile, my feed hasn't been working for weeks on my account's
#Firefish page, and now, the notifications have stopped working with #Phanpy (I've used this account, partly with the native UI and partly with Phanpy for a little while).

I guess a temporary
#Mastodon account will have to be it until something that can replace it comes along (I'm confident that Bonfire will be the one, but I was confident Iceshrimp and Akkomane were going to be the ones too... So... 🤷)

Okay, if I was pretty quiet here, it's because my home feed is bugged again. I finally found a workaround with Phanpy (which, I should have thought about earlier as I use Phanpy on mobile already, but as I'm old, I rarely use social media on mobile).

(by the way, if you're not using Phanpy, you should give it a try)

Now, the bigger issue of needing to move away from Firefish hasn't been solved yet.

I'd like to migrate this account to "not Mastodon." Without much luck, so far.

First I waited for the new Iceshrimp, but will it come out one day? Not sure.

Then, I tried Akkomane, it seemed great but there were a couple of deal breakers (issue with thumbnails with I shared a link, no Bridge to Bluesky and I forgot what else was missing).

Right now, I'm waiting for the release of Ghost 6.0 but from the beta that I've been trying (follow me there if you want:
@david@glitched.earth), I doubt Ghost's team plans on having a full-blown micro-blogging platform attached to the blogs/newsletters. That would be awesome (a blog and microblog under the same account, basically), but I doubt it's their goal.

There's also Bonfire that seems promising, but it's still too new (and I'm not sure there are servers where I could migrate yet, nor managed hosting for it).

So, I'm still waiting and seeing for now.

(note to well-meaning reply people: I'm not asking for suggestions for platforms. I have tried pretty much all of them already, I'm just mostly thinking out loud and telling my followers what's going on with this account.)

#fediverse #firefish

Warum Sharkey?

Ich bin schon seit einigen Jahren im Fediverse unterwegs. Mastodon, Friendica, GoToSocial, Firefish – ich habe sie alle ausprobiert. Jede Instanz war ein neuer Versuch, ein neues Fragment von dem, was ich suche: einen Ort, an dem meine Gedanken nicht nur verhallen, sondern Resonanz finden.

Man muss sich irgendwann die Frage stellen: Was will ich eigentlich mit all dem? Und welche Funktionen braucht es, um das zu ermöglichen?

Sharkey ist ein Fork von Misskey, entstanden aus den Überresten von Firefish. Und genau hier habe ich gefunden, was ich brauche. MFM, Gruppen, Kanäle, Clips, Seiten – all diese Dinge ermöglichen mir, Inhalte auf eine Weise zu teilen, die zu mir passt. Es geht nicht nur um das Posten, sondern um Austausch und Zusammenarbeit. Um Räume, in denen eine kleine Gemeinschaft wachsen kann, spezifisch und geschützt.

Das Design? Endlich etwas, das nicht aussieht, als wäre es in den frühen 2000ern oder gar 1990ern hängen geblieben. Es ist stimmig, aufgeräumt und modern, ohne dabei kühl zu wirken.

Und obwohl Sharkey viele Funktionen bietet, bleibt es ein Microblog – und das ist gut so. Verständlich, klar strukturiert. Hubzilla mag mächtiger sein, aber darin liegt auch seine Schwäche: es erschlägt, verwirrt, verliert die einfachen Nutzer:innen schnell im Dschungel seiner Möglichkeiten.

Ich hoffe, dass Sharkey bleibt. Dass die Entwickler:innen weiter daran arbeiten, dass es wächst und nicht – wie Calckey oder Firefish – irgendwann einfach verschwindet. Es scheint ein Fluch zu sein, der auf Misskey-Forks liegt. Und doch: vielleicht überlebt Sharkey. Vielleicht bricht es den Zyklus.

Für jetzt jedenfalls bin ich angekommen.
Ich wünsche euch einen ruhigen, erholsamen Sonntag. Wir alle suchen einen Ort, der uns nicht verändert – sondern versteht.

#Fediverse #Sharkey #Misskey #Microblogging #Firefish #DigitaleIdentität #Plattformwahl #Hubzilla #Mastodon #ActivityPub

Fedistar v1.11.6
=> fedistar.net
Multi-column Fediverse client application for desktop
- Supporting SNS
- - Mastodon
- - Pleroma
- - Friendica
- - Firefish
- - Gotosocial
- - Pixelfed
- - Akkoma (Unofficial)
- - Sharkey (Unofficial)
- - Hometown (Unofficial)
- - Iceshrimp (Unofficial)
- Multiple accounts management
- Multiple columns
- You can see timelines without sign in
- Desktop notification
- Streaming update
- Send reactions from another accounts
- Change column width
Changelog:
=> github.com/h3poteto/fedistar/r
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fedistar.netFedistarMulti-column Mastodon and Pleroma client for desktop
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@Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts.

Neither of this is true. The Fediverse has had quote-posts since July 2nd, 2010 when Mistpark (now known as Friendica) was launched. Mastodon toots have been quote-post-able since Mastodon itself was launched, for when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with at least two Fediverse server applications that have quote-posts, namely Friendica and Hubzilla, a fork of a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator.

Nowadays, at least Pleroma, Akkoma, all other Pleroma forks, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, all other Misskey forks, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problem.

And Mastodon won't be able to stop them. No, seriously, it won't. Not with a non-standard, proprietary, home-brew opt-in or opt-out switch that doesn't tie into anything that the other Fediverse server apps have. And whatever switch Mastodon is working on will not tie into anything that already exists.

Let me put it this way: Hubzilla has the second-most advanced and fine-grained permissions system in the Fediverse. It goes well beyond most people's imagination. It works on three levels: for the whole channel (that's similar to a Mastodon account), for individual contacts (that's "followers" in Mastodon lingo, but Hubzilla doesn't distinguish between followers and followed), for individual content. (streams) and Forte are the only ones with an even more advanced and fine-grained permissions system.

But even they don't have a quote-post permission setting. And they have permission settings for just about everything. You want reply control in the Fediverse? Hubzilla has reply control, and (streams) and Forte have reply control on steroids. But what they don't have is a quote-posting permission because that's next to impossible to control across the Fediverse even with the most advanced permissions system.

As @Mike Macgirvin ?️ (professional software developer for almost half a century, designer of two Fediverse protocols, creator of Friendica and Hubzilla, inventor of nomadic identity, creator and maintainer of (streams) and Forte) says: The only way to make your posts un-quote-post-able is by not posting in public and not allowing everyone in the Fediverse full access to your posts. Set your "Who can quote" however you want, I'll always be able to quote-post all your public posts with no problem and with no resistance.

So what chance does Mastodon have then? Mastodon which doesn't even know what permissions are? Developed by Eugen Rochko who actually has a history of head-butting with Mike Macgirvin, and who would never take any step towards anything that Mike has ever developed?

I'm commenting from Hubzilla right now, and I'm also on (streams). And I can tell you: If you make any of your posts "un-quote-post-able", this still won't make my Share buttons on Hubzilla and (streams) disappear.

CC: @Stefan Bohacek @FinchHaven sfba

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@CanvasesByPeter Understand your dilemma. I changed to my Friendica account/s as my "default fedi" last year, a few times, but eventually kept coming back to Masto, for several reasons, not necessarily only, but including:

  • could not find one with server/s in Oz or close by, that met my aspirations of being green, multi-user with at least a few hundred users, & ofc still open for rego
  • also preferred not a Merkan one
  • all the European ones i tried [servers in Germany, & Sweden?] had unacceptable latency for fetching & sending posts, & some of them had terrible unreliability / downtime
  • two of the Euro ones ran scheduled database backups etc at their 0200 or 0300, which was my 0900 or 1000, & they were unavailable / unresponsive then for 60' - 120', which was galling
  • most of my frequent interlocutors are on Masto, such that the many software differences twixt F & M actively adversely degraded the convo UX

Given my Masto already has a most useful char limit of 11K, after my latest return to Masto early this year i took a different strategy. I stopped hunting for "better" fedi platforms [ie, #Friendica, #Pleroma, #Akkoma, #Firefish, #Misskey et al], & focused on investigating potentially better browser front-ends for my Masto instance. So i tried many more than these, but the interesting ones were #Sengi, #Phanpi, & #Statuzer. Every now & then i revisit the first two, but the latter has been my fav for several months now.

Good luck.