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Jupiter Rowland@<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/channel/scott" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott M. Stolz</a> Don't mix up quotes and quote-posts. They're something <em>very</em> different, not only in technology, but also in use-case and especially in cultural implications.<br><br><blockquote>Whereas on platforms with threaded conversations, quotes are usually used in comments within a thread, and on many platforms, such comments could be removed by the thread owner.</blockquote><br>This is a quote. Like in a bulletin-board forum. This is actually only used in comments. For Mastodon users, it's basically unimaginable that this ever happens in social media. Twitter has never had this, so most Mastodon users don't even know the very concept of this. Thus, it is not what they're upset about.<br><br>What Mastodon users are so upset about are quote-posts. What they refer to as "quote-posts" or "quote-toots" is what we call "shares" or "shared posts", what Twitter/X calls "quote-tweets", and what is used on Twitter/X for harassment and dogpiling purposes, namely this:<br><br> <a href="https://loves.tech/channel/scott?f=&amp;zid=WilliamRobert%40toad.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><span><a href="https://loves.tech/channel/scott?f=&amp;zid=WilliamRobert%40toad.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Scott M. Stolz</a> schrieb den folgenden <a href="https://loves.tech/item/e10ec895-9fc2-4c2e-a3be-9c51ba9179da?f=&amp;zid=WilliamRobert%40toad.social" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beitrag</a> <span class="">Tue, 10 Jun 2025 08:54:18 +0200</span></span> It should be noted that Twitter-style platforms use quote posts in an entirely different way than platforms with threaded conversations. <br><br>With Mastodon, someone can quote you, criticize you, and then people dogpile on. Since it is not part of a thread, and is its own top level post, nothing can be done about it.<br><br>Whereas on platforms with threaded conversations, quotes are usually used in comments within a thread, and on many platforms, such comments could be removed by the thread owner. Yes, they can create new top level post quoting someone, but that seems to be used less on threaded conversation platforms than on Twitter style platforms.<br><br>This creates a different culture surrounding quoting people, since one has potential consequences and one does not. <br><br>Plus, I think there is also a cultural difference between people who want to broadcast their thoughts versus people who want to join conversations. People who want to participate in conversations are typically less hostile since they get banned or blocked pretty quickly. People who broadcast their posts just want as many followers to see it as possible and tend to block anyone that disagrees with them. It is a different mindset. <br><br>That is why Mastodon has to implement quote controls, but thread conversation platforms do not. <br><br>You should see that it's something completely different. This <em>never</em> happens within the same thread. It wouldn't make sense to quote-post/quote-tweet/share a post in a comment on that same post.<br><br>This is what Mastodon users what to have control over. This is what they want to prevent. Entirely. They would want a switch that makes Hubzilla hide the Share button under a post of theirs if they knew that a) Hubzilla exists, and b) Hubzilla can share posts/quote-post.<br><br>This is what @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin ?️</a> keeps preaching over and over and over that literally the only possible way to keep this from happening is by not posting in public. For this is what neither Hubzilla nor Mike's own (streams) and Forte have a permission setting for because even their highly advanced and fine-grained permissions systems have no way of implementing actually water-tight quote-post control. So what chance does Mastodon have with its total lack of a permission system and no understanding of Hubzilla's, (streams)', Forte's or even only Friendica's permission system?<br><br>Mastodon doesn't have either implemented, neither quotes nor shares/quote-posts, at least not beyond displaying quotes properly formatted (it is working on displaying quote-posts properly formatted now). Hubzilla has inherited both from Friendica which has had both for 15 years.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://mastodon.bayern/@matteo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matteo (Mastodon)</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Quote" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quote</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Quotes" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quotes</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a>
UK<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/uk/168693/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/uk/168693/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> IonQ, Oak Ridge Researchers Use Quantum-Classical Algorithm to Solve Power Grid Problem <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/DepartmentOfEnergy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DepartmentOfEnergy</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Forte</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/ionq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ionq</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/OakRidgeNationalLaboratory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OakRidgeNationalLaboratory</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Physics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Physics</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/PowerGenerators" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PowerGenerators</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/PowerGrid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PowerGrid</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Science</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/UnitedKingdom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnitedKingdom</span></a></p>
Gancio de Roma <p><strong>Presentazione LIbro “SCRITTE CORSARE. Intersezionali, decoloniali e queer” di Laura Corradi</strong></p> <p>CSOA Forte Prenestino, venerdì 13 giugno alle ore 21:00 CEST</p><p>CSOA Forte Prenestino<br>giovedì 13 giugno 2025<br>ore 21:00 <br>durante il festival queer transfemminista<br>"Nostri I Corpi Nostre Le Città"<br>Forte Infoshop presenta</p><p><strong>“SCRITTE CORSARE.<br>Intersezionali, decoloniali e queer”<br></strong>di <strong>Laura Corradi</strong> (Agenzia X 2025)</p><p>incontro con l'autrice<br><br><em>“Emerge la necessità di decolonizzare le nostre menti, ovvero concetti, metodologie e dualismi che l’occidente ha imposto al resto del mondo e l’urgenza di decostruire criticamente le varie forme di etero-patriarcato, ben presenti anche nell’attivismo politico.<br>Le teorie/prassi queer sono presentate come invenzione liberatoria, non solo spazio/ombrello per la galassia Lgbtqia+ ma criterio sovversivo rispetto alle normatività, alle gerarchie, ai disciplinamenti sociali (e digitali), al conformismo omologante.”</em></p><p>•••<br><a href="https://forteprenestino.net/attivita/3375-nostri-i-corpi-nostre-le-citta-2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forteprenestino.net/attivita/3375-nostri-i-corpi-nostre-le-citta-2</a><br><a href="https://www.agenziax.it/scritte-corsare" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.agenziax.it/scritte-corsare</a><br><br>•••<br>difendi e diffondi autogestione!<br>•<br>CSOA Forte Prenestino<br>via F. Delpino, 100Celle, Roma</p> <p><a href="https://roma.convoca.la/event/presentazione-libro-scritte-corsare-intersezionali-decoloniali-e-queer-di-laura-corradi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">roma.convoca.la/event/presenta</span><span class="invisible">zione-libro-scritte-corsare-intersezionali-decoloniali-e-queer-di-laura-corradi</span></a></p>
France | République française<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/fr/155460/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/fr/155460/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> Girondins : Ces 2 attaquants incontournables pour Bordeaux, selon Djino Forté <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/actu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>actu</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Actualit%C3%A9s" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Actualités</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/alors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>alors</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/attaquants" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>attaquants</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Bordeaux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bordeaux</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/comme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>comme</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/considere" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>considere</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Djino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Djino</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/estival" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>estival</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>europe</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/FR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FR</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Girondins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Girondins</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/incontournables" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>incontournables</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/indispensables" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>indispensables</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/leur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>leur</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/mercato" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mercato</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/NouvelleAquitaine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NouvelleAquitaine</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/pour" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pour</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/pr%C3%A9parent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>préparent</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/prochaine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prochaine</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/R%C3%A9publiqueFran%C3%A7aise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RépubliqueFrançaise</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/r%C3%A9v%C3%A8le" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>révèle</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/saison" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>saison</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/selon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selon</span></a></p>
France | République française<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/fr/153455/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/fr/153455/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> La forte croissance d’un groupe informatique nantais <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/actu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>actu</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Actualit%C3%A9s" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Actualités</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Croissance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Croissance</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>europe</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/FR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FR</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Groupe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Groupe</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/informatique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>informatique</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/nantais" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nantais</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Nantes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nantes</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/PaysDeLaLoire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PaysDeLaLoire</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/R%C3%A9publiqueFran%C3%A7aise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RépubliqueFrançaise</span></a></p>
France | République française<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/fr/152866/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/fr/152866/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> Girondins : le chantier du milieu de terrain à Bordeaux selon Djino Forté <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/actu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>actu</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Actualit%C3%A9s" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Actualités</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/analyse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>analyse</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Bordeaux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bordeaux</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/chantier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chantier</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/concession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>concession</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/constat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>constat</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/dans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dans</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Djino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Djino</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/dresse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dresse</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>europe</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/FR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FR</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Girondins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Girondins</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/milieu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>milieu</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/NouvelleAquitaine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NouvelleAquitaine</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/pour" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pour</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/R%C3%A9publiqueFran%C3%A7aise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RépubliqueFrançaise</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/sans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sans</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/selon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selon</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Terrain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Terrain</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/WebGirondins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebGirondins</span></a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸</a> The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts.<br><br>Neither of this is true. The Fediverse has had quote-posts since July 2nd, 2010 when Mistpark (now known as <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a>) was launched. Mastodon toots have been quote-post-able since Mastodon itself was launched, for when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with at least two Fediverse server applications that have quote-posts, namely Friendica and <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, a fork of a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator.<br><br>Nowadays, at least Pleroma, Akkoma, all other Pleroma forks, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, all other Misskey forks, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte <strong>can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problem</strong>.<br><br>And <strong>Mastodon won't be able to stop them</strong>. No, seriously, it won't. Not with a non-standard, proprietary, home-brew opt-in or opt-out switch that doesn't tie into anything that the other Fediverse server apps have. And whatever switch Mastodon is working on <em>will not</em> tie into anything that already exists.<br><br>Let me put it this way: Hubzilla has the second-most advanced and fine-grained permissions system in the Fediverse. It goes <em>well</em> beyond most people's imagination. It works on three levels: <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_channel_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the whole channel</a> (that's similar to a Mastodon account), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_contact_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for individual contacts</a> (that's "followers" in Mastodon lingo, but Hubzilla doesn't distinguish between followers and followed), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_content.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for individual content</a>. (streams) and Forte are the only ones with an even more advanced and fine-grained permissions system.<br><br>But even they don't have a quote-post permission setting. And they have permission settings for <em>just about everything</em>. You want reply control in the Fediverse? Hubzilla has reply control, and (streams) and Forte have reply control <em>on steroids</em>. But what they don't have is a quote-posting permission because that's next to impossible to control across the Fediverse even with the most advanced permissions system.<br><br>As @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin ?️</a> (professional software developer for almost half a century, designer of two Fediverse protocols, creator of Friendica and Hubzilla, inventor of nomadic identity, creator and maintainer of (streams) and Forte) says: <strong>The only way to make your posts un-quote-post-able is by not posting in public and not allowing everyone in the Fediverse full access to your posts.</strong> Set your "Who can quote" however you want, I'll always be able to quote-post all your public posts with no problem and with no resistance.<br><br>So what chance does Mastodon have then? Mastodon which doesn't even know what permissions are? Developed by Eugen Rochko who actually has a history of head-butting with Mike Macgirvin, and who would <em>never</em> take <em>any</em> step towards <em>anything</em> that Mike has ever developed?<br><br>I'm commenting from Hubzilla right now, and I'm also on (streams). And I can tell you: If you make any of your posts "un-quote-post-able", this still won't make my Share buttons on Hubzilla and (streams) disappear.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefan Bohacek</a> @<a href="https://sfba.social/@FinchHaven" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FinchHaven sfba</a> <br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Calckey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Calckey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp.NET" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iceshrimp.NET</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CherryPick" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CherryPick</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a>
Plumf<p>Salut le Fediverse, je cherche à autohéberger (sur <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/YunoHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>YunoHost</span></a>) un serveur <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> pour microblogger. Pas trop envie d'installer <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> pour 2,3 comptes qui ne feront que publier automatiquement les actus des projets. Il y a <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/GoToSocial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GoToSocial</span></a> mais il est en version nowasm (Et ça me semble risqué). Est-ce qu'il y a des utilisateur⋅ices de <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Stream" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stream</span></a> ou <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Forte</span></a> qui ont un retour d'expérience à exprimer ? Et dans l'idéal, moins il consomme de ressources, plus ça me convient =)</p><p>Il y a aussi <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/MissKey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MissKey</span></a> et <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> (mais je n'ai pas besoin d'une interface graphique qui consomme de la ressource pour rien...)</p><p><a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/AutoHebergement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoHebergement</span></a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@midtsveen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erik L. Midtsveen 🏳️‍⚧️🇳🇴</a> If you <em>really</em> want some criticism:<br><br>Alt-text really should not contain line breaks, nor should it contain the quotations marks on your keyboard. Neither are standard alt-text elements. And just because Mastodon renders them with no problems, doesn't mean everything does. Not even in the Fediverse.<br><br>As for line breaks: Some screen readers will take each new line for a whole new alt-text and therefore a whole new image. And they will read multi-line alt-texts as alt-texts of multiple images, e.g. starting each line with, "Graphic." <a href="https://www.tpgi.com/short-note-on-coding-alt-text/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This has been pointed out by Steve Faulkner in 2015.</a><br><br>As for quotation marks: For one, just like line breaks, they're actually completely useless for the actual target audience of alt-text, namely blind or visually-impaired people. Screen readers don't read out quotation marks. I mean, how should they?<br><br>But if a frontend doesn't render quotation marks properly, screen readers will read out gobbledygook where there's a quotation mark because they will see gobbledygook in the place of that quotation mark, because the frontend renders quotation marks as gobbledygook.<br><br>For example, there's Hubzilla which is what I'm posting from right now, so it's very much part of the Fediverse. Hubzilla renders quotation marks in alt-text as their HTML entities, namely <code>&amp;⁠quot;</code>. A screen reader will read out every single quotation mark as, "And quot."<br><br>And then there are two descendants of Hubzilla made by Hubzilla's own creator, (streams) and Forte. The same quotation marks that you have on whatever keyboard you use, they use as <em>alt-text delimiters</em>. When the first quotation mark comes, they think it's the end of the alt-text, <em>and they stop parsing and rendering the alt-text</em>. For them, your alt-text ends right after, "Panel 1:"<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.de/@wauz" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">wauz ワウズ</a> Ist problemlos schon lange auch im Fediverse möglich, nur eben nicht auf Mastodon.<br><br>Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) und Forte haben nicht nur Gruppen mit allen Schikanen, sondern auch private Gruppen. Das heißt: Wer nicht in der Gruppe ist, kann die Threads in der Gruppe nicht sehen, kann das Profil der Gruppe nicht sehen, kann nicht sehen, wer alles in der Gruppe ist. Auf Hubzilla kann das sogar jeweils einzeln und unabhängig voneinander geschaltet werden.<br><br>Private Gruppen auf Hubzilla, (streams) und Forte unterstützen auch OpenWebAuth Magic Single Sign-On: Wenn du auf Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) oder Forte bist, egal, auf welcher Instanz du bist, und du besuchst die Gruppe, wird dein Login automatisch erkannt. Wenn du Gruppenmitglied bist, kannst du das Profil, die Gruppenmitglieder und den Gruppen-Stream mit allen Threads sehen.<br><br>Zusätzlich, also unabhängig davon, können solche Gruppen auch wahlweise in Verzeichnissen nicht angezeigt werden, damit sie nicht jeder findet.<br><br>Friendica-Gruppen können zusätzliche Moderatoren auf demselben Friendica-Node haben. Hubzilla-Foren, (streams)-Gruppen und Forte-Gruppen können zusätzliche Moderatoren irgendwo auf Hubzilla, (streams) oder Forte haben.<br><br>Gleichzeitig kannst du dein Friendica-Konto oder deinen Hubzilla-, (streams)- oder Forte-Kanal nutzen, um dich damit auch mit dem ganzen Rest des Fediverse zu verbinden, Mastodon, Misskey, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Castopod, Funkwhale, Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed usw. usf.<br><br>Aber: Wenn du einer privaten Friendica-Gruppe beitreten willst, brauchst du ein Friendica-Konto oder einen Hubzilla-, (streams)- oder Forte-Kanal. Wenn du einem privaten Hubzilla-Forum oder einer privaten (streams)- oder Forte-Gruppe beitreten willst brauchst du einen Hubzilla-, (streams)- oder Forte-Kanal. Mastodon kommt da jeweils nicht rein, weil es kein Konzept von Berechtigungen hat.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LangerPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LangerPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLangerPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLangerPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Gruppen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gruppen</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediGruppen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediGruppen</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseGruppen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseGruppen</a>
France | République française<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/fr/126833/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/fr/126833/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> l’UE appelle à «&nbsp;la plus forte pression internationale&nbsp;» contre la Russie #2025 <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Actualit%C3%A9s" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Actualités</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/appelle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>appelle</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/F%C3%A9d%C3%A9rationDeRussie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FédérationDeRussie</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/FranceMonde" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FranceMonde</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/guerre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>guerre</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/l" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>l</span></a>'a <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/l" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>l</span></a>’UE <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/plus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>plus</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/RussianFederation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RussianFederation</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Russie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russie</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Ukraine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ukraine</span></a></p>
just small circles 🕊<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hollo.social/@hongminhee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hongminhee</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@thisismissem" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thisismissem</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@PuercoPop" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>PuercoPop</span></a></span> </p><p>For your information, I recently opened an issue to track current <a href="https://social.coop/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> C2S implementations.</p><p>This is the list thus far:</p><p> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/ActivityPods" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPods</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Epicyon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Epicyon</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Onepage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Onepage</span></a>.pub<br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pleroma</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/RDFPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RDFPub</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Vocata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vocata</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/FedBOX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FedBOX</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Mitra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mitra</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/streams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>streams</span></a><br> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a></p><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps/issues/130" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/fediverse/delight</span><span class="invisible">ful-fediverse-apps/issues/130</span></a></p><p>Client-side <a href="https://social.coop/tags/AndStatus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AndStatus</span></a> is a well-known attempt to implement it:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/499" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/andstatus/andstatus</span><span class="invisible">/issues/499</span></a></p>
getmisch<p>I'm used to the first soprano. But today I've got an oboe-ist - oboist? - doing scales. I love New York. <br><a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/NYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NYC</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/garden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>garden</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/apartment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>apartment</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/fire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fire</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/escape" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>escape</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/scales" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>scales</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/arpeggios" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>arpeggios</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/practice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>practice</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/oboe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>oboe</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/first" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>first</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/soprano" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>soprano</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/aria" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aria</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/opera" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opera</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/orchestra" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>orchestra</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/pit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pit</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/band" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>band</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/conduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>conduct</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/rehearse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rehearse</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/ensemble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ensemble</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/midtown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>midtown</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/Manhattan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Manhattan</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/theatre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>theatre</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/district" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>district</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/Broadway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Broadway</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/musical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musical</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/musician" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musician</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/instrument" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>instrument</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/double" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>double</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/reed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reed</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/mouthpiece" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mouthpiece</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/spit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>spit</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/valve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>valve</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/treble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>treble</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/bass" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bass</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/clef" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>clef</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/staff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>staff</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>music</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/quarter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quarter</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/notes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>notes</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/allegro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>allegro</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/pianissimo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pianissimo</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/forte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forte</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/andante" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>andante</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/waltz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>waltz</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/clog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>clog</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/tap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tap</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/time" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>time</span></a> <a href="https://masto.nyc/tags/step" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>step</span></a></p>
FlávioO que tem no mar?<br> <br> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/mar?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mar</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/sea?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sea</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/mer?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mer</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/forte?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#forte</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/forteresse?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#forteresse</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/fortaleza?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fortaleza</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/fortress?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fortress</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/skyline?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#skyline</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/fishing?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fishing</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/fisherman?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fisherman</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/pêche?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pêche</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/pêcheur?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pêcheur</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/pescador?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pescador</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/landscape?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#landscape</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/azul?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#azul</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/bleu?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bleu</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/blue?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blue</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/brasil?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#brasil</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/brazil?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#brazil</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/bresil?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bresil</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/brasile?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#brasile</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/bresilien?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bresilien</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://dresden.network/@sufloese" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susanne Schneider</a> Wenn du nicht so ganz den Feature-Overkill brauchst, kannst du dir auch die beiden Nachfahren von Hubzilla mal angucken. Die sind auch in der Bedienung ein ganzes Stück glattgebürstet und eleganter als Hubzilla.<br><br>@<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/channel/pepecyb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝</a> hat meines Wissens öffentliche Instanzen von sowohl <a href="https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/register" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> (die ist auf jeden Fall öffentlich) als auch vom nochmal neueren <a href="https://forte.fedi-verse.hu/register" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>, das sich von (streams) nur dadurch unterscheidet, daß es komplett mit ActivityPub funktioniert, während (streams) noch primär das Nomad-Protokoll verwendet und ActivityPub zusätzlich.<br><br>Wichtiger Nachteil in allen drei Fällen wäre noch, daß es keine Smartphone-Apps gibt und du aufs Webinterface angewiesen bist. Das funktioniert aber jeweils auch mobil prima, und du kannst alle drei als Progressive Web Apps installieren.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LangerPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LangerPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLangerPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLangerPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@_9CL7T9k8cjnD_" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">-0--1-</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iDGS" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David G. Smith</a> Still, first of all, if I posted an image without an alt-text (which I'd never do), AltBot would have to <em>assume full admin rights</em> over <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Hubzilla channel that I'm currently commenting from</a> because that's the only way for another Fediverse actor to alter the source code of my posts.<br><br>Altering the source code of the post is necessary because Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte neither have a dedicated alt-text field, nor are images file attachments there. Rather, images are embedded directly into the post, in-line, just the same way blogs handle images. And alt-text has to be woven into the image-embedding code in the post. Thus, the post itself has to be altered.<br><br>So, assuming AltBot actually manages to circumvent the two most advanced permissions systems in the Fediverse, it would have to trace back an image that it perceives as a file attachment to where exactly the embedding code for that particular image is in the post.<br><br>It would have to be able to both understand and write the specific flavour of BBcode used by Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.<br><br>It would have to, for example, take this piece of code...<br><pre><code>[zrl=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photos/jupiter_rowland/image/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295][zmg=800x533]https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photo/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295-2.jpg[/zmg][/zrl]</code></pre>...and edit it into this.<br><pre><code>[zrl=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photos/jupiter_rowland/image/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295][zmg=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/photo/b1e7bf9c-07d8-45b6-90bb-f43e27199295-2.jpg]Digital shaded rendering of the main building of the Universal Campus, a downloadable island location for 3-D virtual worlds based on OpenSimulator. The camera position is about three metres or ten feet above the ground. The camera is tilted slightly upward and rotated slightly to the left from the building's longitudinal axis. The futuristic building is over 200 metres long, stretching far into the distance, and its front is about 50 metres wide. Its structure is mostly textured to resemble brushed stainless steel, and almost everything in-between is grey tinted glass. The main entrance of the building in the middle of the front has two pairs of glass doors. They are surrounded by a massive complex geometrical structure, very roughly reminiscent of a vintage video game spacecraft with the front facing upward. Four huge cylindrical pillars carry the roof end, the outer two of which extend beyond it. All are tilted away from the landing area in front of the building and at the same time outward to the sides. The sides of the building are slightly tilted themselves. In the distance, a large geodesic dome rises from the building. There is a large circular area in front of the main entrance as well as several wide paths. They have light concrete textures, and they are lined with low walls with almost white concrete textures. Furthermore, various shrubs and trees decorate the scenery.[/zmg][/zrl]</code></pre><br>Not to mention that AltBot would require extensive detail niche knowledge about the topic covered by the image to be able to whip up the above alt-text in the first place. (By the way: The alt-text example is genuine. I've actually used it. And it's an extremely whittled-down version of the long image description of the same image in the post itself, a description which has to be the longest in the entire Fediverse.)<br><br>Ideally, AltBot would do so without flagging the post as edited.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://sfba.social/@andytiedye" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@_9CL7T9k8cjnD_" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">-0--1-</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iDGS" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David G. Smith</a> You mean as in <em>someone else</em> permanently writing an alt-text into <em>the original image</em>?<br><br>Good luck wrestling down the permissions system and acquiring permission to remotely alter the original image post if it is from <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, <a href="https://codeberg.org/streams/streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> or <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>. Not everything in the Fediverse is Mastodon or works like Mastodon.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/users/AndyGER" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andreas M. Heitmann :batman:</a> Define "similar".<br><br>As for Tumblr: For one, there's Wafrn which aims to be a direct drop-in replacement for Tumblr. Downside: <a href="https://app.wafrn.net/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The project website is also the only instance (so far?).</a><br><br>As for Facebook: @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a> has spent the last 15 years developing about <em>a dozen</em> Fediverse server applications which are (also) designed to be alternatives to Facebook. Today, there are still <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> (2010), <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> (2012/2015), <a href="https://codeberg.org/streams/streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> (2021) and <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> (2024).<br><br>However, if what you're looking for is "literally Facebook without Musk and with ActivityPub", as in a 1:1 Facebook <em>clone</em> that looks like Facebook and feels like Facebook just like Bluesky looks and feels like early Twitter, then you're out of luck. All four are "better than Facebook" Facebook alternatives that add useful stuff on top, but that don't look and feel close enough to Facebook for nobody to have to learn something new. The closest you'll get is Friendica if the node in question has the <a href="https://gitlab.com/randompenguin/bookface" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bookface</a> theme installed.<br><br>Even then you'll have to "install" Friendica on your iPhone as a progressive Web app through Safari and use its own Web interface (which is mobile-compatible). There is no native app for Friendica for the iPhone in the Apple App Store. There's one in development, but it's far from complete. And while Friendica supports Mastodon apps, a Mastodon app only covers a small fraction of Friendica's features, it leaves out some features that you'll need daily (simply because Mastodon doesn't have them), and I'm not sure if there's any Mastodon app for the iPhone that works with Friendica; it has officially only ever been tested with Android.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Facebook" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Facebook</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FacebookAlternative" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FacebookAlternative</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Tumblr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=TumblrAlternative" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TumblrAlternative</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Wafrn" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wafrn</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.online/@koteisaev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kote Isaev</a> @<a href="https://universeodon.com/@djembro" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Djembro, RO, supports 🇺🇦🇬🇪</a> Not to mention that Tumblr, just like Facebook and every last blog out there, uses a one-post-many-comments conversation model whereas Mastodon hangs on to Twitter's loose strings of posts.<br><br>If you want that conversation model <em>and</em> full HTML text formatting <em>and</em> images embedded within the post <em>and</em> development being done outside the USA, your only choices is the family of "better-than-Facebook Facebook alternatives": Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte. Friendica is developed by two Germans with the code on GitHub in the USA. Hubzilla is developed by a German and a Norwegian with the code on Framagit in France. (streams) and Forte are both developed by their and Friendica's and Hubzilla's creator in Australia with the code on Codeberg in Germany.<br><br>None of them is a Facebook clone, though, and nobody should expect either to be a full-on Tumblr clone. UI and UX are a lot different. Also, all four have quite a bit of a learning curve, regardless of where you come from.<br><br>Lastly, readily available native third-party mobile apps only exist for Friendica and for Android. There's an iPhone app for Friendica in development, but it's a long way to daily-driver material. Friendica is also the only one of the bunch with the Mastodon client API, but Mastodon apps can only cover a tiny fraction of what Friendica can do, namely what Mastodon can do, too.<br><br>As for apps for the other three, no dice. There's no native mobile app even in sight, also because such an app would end up an absolute monster. And none of them supports Mastodon apps and most likely never will because the Mastodon client API covers even fewer of their features. In fact, it does not cover a lot of critical everyday features, so trying to use one of the three through a Mastodon app makes no sense whatsoever. You're better off with the Web interface either way.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Tumblr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tumblr</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>
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