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ThePfromtheO

"#JamieZawinski has #repeatedly said:

Now hear me out, but What If…? #browser #development was in the hands of some kind of #nonprofit #organization?

In my #humble but #correct #opinion, #Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

#Building THE #reference #implementation #WebBrowser and
Being a jugular-#snapping #attack #dog on #standards #committees.
There is no 3."
"Perhaps this is the only #viable #resolution."

"#Mozilla, for all its many #failings, has #invented a lot of #amazing #tech, from #Rust to #Servo to the #leading #budget #phone #OS. It shouldn't be trying to #capitalize on this #stuff. Maybe 3encourage it to have semi-independent #spinoffs, such as #Thunderbird, and as #KaiOS ought to be, and as #Rust could have been."
"But #JamieZawinski has the only #clear #vision and #solution we've seen yet. Perhaps he's #right, and #Mozilla #should be a #nonprofit, #working to #fund the one #independent, non-#vendor-driven, #standardscompliant #browserEngine."

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ThePfromtheO

"#Mozilla can press on with independent subprojects such as #Thunderbird owners #MZLA #Technologies #Corporation. The popular #Electron #framework is based on #Chromium. It's too late to change that, even if maybe #Servo may one day offer an #alternative. But if #Thunderbird sucked in #Libpurple, it wouldn't matter if #Slack and #Teams and so on used #Electron, as Thunderbird could talk to the servers directly."
"But pointing at what we'd like to see is attempting to #treat the #symptoms and not the #disease. Is there a way to #encourage Mozilla to be an #organized, #focused, #professional #business, with #eyes keenly set on a clearly defined #goal? Perhaps that's the wrong #question. Perhaps that shouldn't be the goal at all. For all that the #Linux business is #huge, no #company #develops the #kernel. They all #cooperate on it. The #Linux #Foundation #funds it, but doesn't really #guide it."
"One #observer has been #spectating and #commentating on Mozilla since before it was a foundation – one of its original co-#developers, #JamieZawinksi. He has been accurately #cataloging Mozilla's #failings for #years."

#browser
Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

We deserve a web browser that's part of and owned by the public commons.

To be frank, I believe we deserve, need, and could easily fund two: Firefox and Servo/Verso.

The "Open Web" does not exist without a truly open browser. Most digital sovereignty initiatives collapse without one.

Mozilla is not the organizational entity to lead this.

theregister.com/2025/07/08/fir

The Register · Firefox is fine. The people running it are notBy Liam Proven
#Firefox#Servo#WebBrowsers
C.

I would once again like to thank the #Mozilla folks for their fine work on making #Firefox do what they think the user should want, rather than what the user actually wants. This is a challenging technical task, but they have proven to be very adept at it over the years.

Current #gripe: tab groups. My tabs just started opening in tab groups without me doing anything. Took a while to figure out this was actually what was going on; the UI affordances for this are not obvious, and it just seemed to be two unrelated niggles - (1) links opened in new tabs weren't opening at the end of the tab bar, and (2) some weird little thing was showing up in the tab bar, which just looked like a graphical glitch.

I didn't enable tab groups, but I suddenly got them anyway.

I didn't choose for links opened in new tabs to be placed into tab groups, but I got that anyway.

And there's no setting in the UI to control this, at least in my Firefox. Search the settings UI for "group" and there's 0 results. Looking through the settings, I don't see it under another name.

You can turn it off in about:config - it's at `browser.tabs.groups.enabled`.

Firefox keeps getting worse and worse. This "we know better than the user, they should want this change and we won't let them even opt out, much less require them to opt in" is a huge driver of that.

When will #Servo be suitable as a daily driver?

#tab#BrowserTab#TabGroup
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FOSS NEWS

Mozilla discontinues Fakespot Deep Fake Detector:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/mozill

Organic Maps gets option to save planned routes and other improvements:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

CoMaps 2025.06.10 is now available on F-Droid with new UI and updated maps:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Proton Mail and Calendar gets option for adding notes when replying to event invitations:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ONLYOFFICE 9.0 released with new themes, redesigned start screen, new Diagram Viewer tool, new supported formats (Markdown, OpenDocument Graphics, Excel binary workbook files) etc.:
omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/06/onlyof

Immich 1.135 released with iOS home screen widgets, Google Cast support and album descriptions in mobile apps, opt-in Google Cast integration and new onboarding flow on web, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

ReactOS gets better support for fullscreen programs:
phoronix.com/news/ReactOS-Full

Calibre 8.5 released with improved Kobo driver, new button in the Manage Data Files dialog to cancel remaining e-books when managing multiple ones, etc.:
9to5linux.com/calibre-8-5-open

Zed gets new multi-language debugger tool, supporting Rust, Go, Python, JavaScript and C/C++:
news.itsfoss.com/zed-debugger-

Git 2.50 released with multi-pack reachability, improved multiple cruft packs, ORT merge engine, etc.:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

Servo gets animated GIF support, support for SVG images via HTML "img" tag, input type="color" support, better layout and CSS support, etc.:
phoronix.com/news/Servo-May-20

Zen Browser 1.13b released with spaces for tabs instead of workspaces, updated Firefox base, Google Safe Browsing support:
alternativeto.net/news/2025/6/

OMG! Ubuntu · Mozilla Axes its 'Deepfake' AI Detector Add-On - OMG! UbuntuMozilla is axing another project that was a perfect fit for a company whose founding mission is to make the web better. Next week, on June 26 2025, the
#WeeklyNews#OpenSource#FOSSNews
tjhowse

Alrighty, It's not published on pypi yet, but I'm mostly done with pyservo42c. It's a python UART interface to the MKS Servo42C closed-loop stepper. No external dependencies, good test coverage.

These are great little widgets that provide easy step/dir/en and UART control of a stepper motor.

github.com/tjhowse/pyservo42c

All that remains is writing a little wrapper to interface directly to a com port, and then pypi publication.

#python#servo#mks
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Kai Klostermann

@servo Please don't. I see #servo as the single most important #FLOSS project currently. We have to handle it super carefully to get it over the finishing lines. Utilizing #AI is not careful or thoughtful. It's clubbing the contestant to finish faster. Please don't.

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Goffi

@servo wow such a shitstorm, so much agressivity, insults, threatening when they ask openly and transparently the opinion of the community. You could just say "no" with reasoning in a respectful way. Imagine the person taking that in the face. That's really sad.

Are we, even here, in a world of violence where sane debate is not possible anymore?

#fediverse#debate#servo
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flashfox

@servo I guess, as an experiment, I will cancel my donations and stop recommending #servo do anyone as a possible alternative. After a year, I might revisit that decision, but let's be honest, unless the current TSC resigns, thing will likely not change either way.

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