"Ballots began to be counted in the occupied part of the Kherson region
The Kremlin state agency TASS notes that the counting of votes is taking place “in the presence of international experts.” For example, Enrique Dominguez from Brazil “saw no violations.” Previously, he praised the illegal “referendum” in the occupied part of the Zaporozhye region."
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"Dominguez, whom propaganda calls an “international expert,” studies at the St. Petersburg University of Economics. Previously, he became a prize-winner of the project “Za Nami Pravda,” which is dedicated to foreigners supporting Putin and the war in Ukraine."
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@AndersGottlieb
I wonder why they even bother with the theatrical performances any more.
@eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb Maybe for their domestic audience? They can muddy up reality for those who don’t know any better and platform more lies and photo ops.
Maybe just to look like a "normal" country, and do like everybody else does.
@AndersGottlieb @eva_chaos That’s why they bother with “re-electing” Putin time after time—they even announced ahead of election that he’s going to get, what was it, 90% of the votes? It seems that the point is to make the country appear normal for most of the czar’s Russian subjects across the eleven time zones, and perhaps for all the global TV audiences. Maybe like Africa, in particular. A thin veneer of legality and process to point to.
@AndersGottlieb @lindamarie
It already runs like the CCP, they just spend all kinds of time and money to make it look European. Russians are ignorant, but nobody is that stupid.
@lindamarie @AndersGottlieb
Tbh, I'm not certain that most of them even want a democracy, because that means their neighbors (esp minorities) would have a vote and that's just not what they are about.
@eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb I think you’re right. Tim Snyder, in an eye opening episode of Frontline “Putin and the Presidents” (6 months ago) spoke for an hour on many of the misunderstandings we in US have about Russia. I’m listening again now and I get it even better than I did in February! Russians don’t expect fair elections. They want the circus and want to convince everyone that no elections anywhere can be trusted. Being seen as a great power is what is most important to them.
@lindamarie @AndersGottlieb
They definitely spend too much time thinking about what we think about them over here. National narcissism.
@eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb Well, there is the gaslighting, fire hose of lies, and what seems to be a national lack of empathy. Another thing that Snyder mentioned — even though China is much more of an actual threat to them, they prefer to think of us in the US, in particular, as the great enemy, thus helping to put themselves in the category of being a great power. Which elevates their domestic narrative of how important they are.
@lindamarie @AndersGottlieb
I guess that's why I like to stomp on them so hard when they pop up on the internet with that crap. Nothing blows my temper faster than npd bullshit.
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Putin and the Presidents: Timothy Snyder (interview) | FRONTLINE
@elCelio @eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb At 28:29- “I wouldn’t want to underestimate how important Russian propaganda was at that time, because it’s hard to take a lesson from something when you haven’t really understood that something is happening. And in the American mind, if you go back and read the press from those weeks and months…it just wasn’t clear an invasion of Ukraine was happening. If there’d been a single column story in the NYT one day that had just said “Russia Invades Ukraine”, that
@elCelio @eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb would have been so much more useful than the endless discussions we had about a whole lot of things that were either irrelevant or weren’t happening…we can’t learn a lesson if we don’t know the thing is actually happening. The lesson that we should have learned in domestic politics, is that the Russians have found techniques using social media to structure and frame what’s going on. They did it in 2014…and then they did it in 2016 to great effect when they
@elCelio @eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb intervened in our presidential election, using the same people, the same institutions, and the same techniques.” This whole video was more intense for me than the usual, affable interviews with experts. He’s on camera speaking extemporaneously the whole time. As I said earlier, this had more impact listening again, as I feel I’ve learned and understand so much more now than I did six months ago when this came out. Highly recommend!