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@elCelio @eva_chaos @AndersGottlieb At 28:29- “I wouldn’t want to underestimate how important Russian propaganda was at that time, because it’s hard to take a lesson from something when you haven’t really understood that something is happening. And in the American mind, if you go back and read the press from those weeks and months…it just wasn’t clear an invasion of Ukraine was happening. If there’d been a single column story in the NYT one day that had just said “Russia Invades Ukraine”, that