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@TheCrookedBeat : you are replying to a spam-only channel.

Former IDF guy Avner Shalev (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw) and his Zionist mates (see their resolution at the bottom auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw) do not read your comments. They don't care.

More examples: mastodon.world/@auschwitzmuseu and mastodon.world/@auschwitzmuseu (of many more).

It is a disgrace. They are pushing their hasbara spam making fools of Holocaust victims.

My previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

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Either they are blind (unlikely) or the *current* Auschwitz maintainers DO NOT CARE about Holocaust victims.

This is, by far, not their first dehumanizing blunder.

Go ahead, click-cattle, and BOOST - and feel good about what you just did.

Previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

#NeverAgainJewsOnly #ConcentrationCampGaza #NotInMyName #AvnerShalevIsWrong #FrancescaAlbaneseIsRight #GazaConcentrationCamp #HolocaustAbuse #AuschwitzZionists #Hypocrites #Propaganda #ClickCattle #KlikVee #Genocide #Gaza #GazaGenocide #Holocaust #Hasbara

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They're not Jews. Which is the reason that the *current* Auschwitz maintainers don't bother to look up their non-captivity pictures (which they do for Jewish Holocaust victims).

Neither do the *current* Auschwitz maintainers tell the story of these two Dutch men and they don't correct their database.

Prisoner number 23610 (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) was known as "Sef Janssen". His birth name was "Jozef Antoon Hubert Janssen" (see openarchieven.nl/rhl:8b0c6e62-). His release is not even mentioned.

Prisoner number 23611 (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) was not "Johann Giesen" but "Jan Giesen". His birth name was "Jan Pieter Antonius Giesen" (see archief.venlo.nl/collecties/bu). His release is not even mentioned.

Their story -in Dutch- can be found in (both are http links) roermondsepoort.nl/terug%20uit and roermondsepoort.nl/r-55-jansse (archives, using https links, in resp. web.archive.org/web/2024022410 and web.archive.org/web/2022100700).

Note: according to the second link, Sef Janssen was born on 21-06-1914 (Blerick), but that may be a typo in that article.

Sef Janssen and Jan Giesen are also mentioned in this Dutch thesis (PDF): pure.uva.nl/ws/files/145681402.

Previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

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"#Auschwitz warns us of where ideologies of hatred can lead to."

Exactly.

From the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw:


RESOLUTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL AUSCHWITZ COUNCIL ON THE TRAGIC EVENTS IN ISRAEL, APPROVED BY CIRCULATION ON 18 NOVEMBER 2023

The International Auschwitz Council by the Prime Minister of the Republic of Poland acknowledges with the deepest pain and sorrow the suffering of innocent Victims – tortured, raped, taken hostage, and murdered by Hamas terrorists.

We wish to express our unwavering solidarity with Israelis and Jews worldwide.

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism. The existence of a free, sovereign, and democratic Jewish State is one of the pillars of world peace.

The unimaginable hatred and violence perpetrated by terrorists only results in extensive and more widespread suffering – affecting also the civilian population of Gaza, whom Hamas exploits as human shields.

An essential first step to halt the horrifying spiral of death and war is the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, a demand we make with all our might.

One of the board members is a former high-ranked member of the Israeli Destruction forces (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

They don't care about holocaust victims in their automated spam stream, which is only intended to make people feel sorry for Zionist Jews who live NOW.

Previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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If more details about this Holocaust victim are known, including a picture, why is it more important to broadcast such information on the internet (*) than to update his record in the Auschwitz' victims database in victims.auschwitz.org/victims/?

Not even his fate and date of death are mentioned there.

(*) Which at least I finds disrespectful, especially while so many Gazan children are being starved or murdered in other ways today.

Previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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Her birth name was not Eva Klein but Eva Schuit (see joodsmonument.nl/en/page/17759).

Her name became Eva Klein-Schuit once she married Günther Julius Klein.

Perhaps there was an Eva Klein who was also born on May 7. However, the only Eva Klein I could find in the online Auschwitz database, with no other details than name and date of birth, is in victims.auschwitz.org/victims/ - but according to that record she was born in 1927.

I could not find any information related to "Eva Schuit" or "Eva Klein-Schuit" in victims.auschwitz.org/victims/.

Respectless toots like the one above are not meant to remind people of Holocaust victims, let alone "Never Again" for anyone. Instead, it's #NeverAgainJewsOnly.

Edited May 8 to correct that the Eva Klein mentioned in the screenshot below was born in 1927, not 1912.

Previous comment: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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His first name was "Kurt" (not "Curt"), as can be seen in, for example, joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/18885.

If I look up his last name in the online Auschwitz victims database (victims.auschwitz.org/victims?), I only find his sister (victims.auschwitz.org/victims/) - with abhorrent minimal details.

What was Kurt's crime to not be included in the Auschwitz online database? And why are neither his wife nor daughter present? Why are you broadcasting such information instead of fixing your database? How is this not #Hasbara?

And why are naive people boosting such toots, while Smotrich wants all Gazans "CONCENTRATED" in a very small part of Gaza (timesofisrael.com/smotrich-say)? And while this nonsense remains at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw:

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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Hanuš Kolben is not found in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? - why not?

If I lookup his last name (victims.auschwitz.org/victims?), there are three results, but none of them was born on May 7, 1922.

Information about Hanuš Kolben can be found in holocaust.cz/en/database-of-vi, but as can be seen below, the maintaners of that database request that information about Holocaust victims is treated with great respect.

If such information is broadcast on the internet, without any such warning, is that respectful? In my opinion: no, it's not.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

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Why can't I find Betty Vredenburg in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? ?

Also her parents have no records in the Auschwitz online database. And her father was not called "Abracham" but "Abraham" - according to, among other websites, collections.yadvashem.org/en/r:
" The Jewish Vredenburg family consisted of Abraham (b. 1914), Rachel (b. 1908), and their little daughter, Betty, who was born on May 6, 1940, only four days before the German invasion of the Netherlands."

A search for the last name (in victims.auschwitz.org/victims?) does not find any of the mentioned family members:

1) Photo: drawn silhouette of a man
Betje Vredenburg
Date of Birth : 02-02-1876

2) Photo: drawn silhouette of a man
Cato, Rosine Vredenburg
Date of Birth : 26-02-1891

3) Photo: drawn silhouette of a man
Jeanette Vredenburg
Date of Birth : 03-10-1913

4) Photo: drawn silhouette of a man
Marcus Vredenburg
Date of Birth : 25-07-1868

5) Photo: drawn silhouette of a man
Rosa Therese Vredenburg
Date of Birth : 19-04-1898

Where do the current Auschwitz maintainers obtain their data from to send these toots, why do they broadcast these toots (*), and why do they not update their database instead?

(*) I know. It's called #Hasbara. Compare the screenshots at the bottom of infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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If I remember correctly, this is the FIRST TIME (in the last half year) that I see a pre-captivity picture of a Holocaust victim who is NOT a Jew - in a toot sent by the current maintainers of the Auschwitz Memorial.

(Do they read my comments?)

However, only part of the information in their toot can be found in victims.auschwitz.org/victims/.

Note that looking for:

Anna Stanisława Kolbusz

in their online database (i.e. victims.auschwitz.org/victims?) returns "... information about the person you were looking for was not found".

Also her picture is missing in the database (I found a nearly identical copy in the SECOND picture in findagrave.com/memorial/270066).

Why are they using (at least) two different databases, and why don't they update their online database with the latest known information?

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

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@AngelaScholder @MarianneTiel

Opmerkelijk, #ZioNOS heeft de titel gewijzigd - maar er wordt geen melding gemaakt van het tijdstip van bijwerken (screenshot hieronder links is nieuw).

Zoals Avner Shalev [1] zei in [2]:

Language has power. The words we choose to use carry weight, and are meaningful. If we elect to label every event a "genocide," or equate every event with the Holocaust, then we detract from the real meaning of those words and reduce their ability to represent true horror.

Subsequently, when faced with a real incident of genocidal murder, people will be less likely ot [sic] be moved to act. If everything is genocide, nothing is genocide.

Uit news.un.org/en/story/2024/05/1:

The UN General Assembly on Thursday designated 11 July as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica, in which at least 8,372 people were killed, thousands displaced and whole communities destroyed.

Maar ja, de ZioNOS zet het tussen aanhalingstekens.

Zij laat de lezer opzettelijk denken dat het na meer dan 52.000 vermoorde mensen, het verwoesten van nagenoeg alle woningen en infrastructuur, mensen voortdurend opjagen, meer dan twee maanden alle hulp blokkeren en bijna twee maanden geen elektriciteit (dus nauwelijks schoon water) nog NIET om 'genocide' of nog NET NIET om 'ethnisch zuiveren' gaat.

Journalisten horen zich geen te maken dat nieuws voor sommigen ongewenst kan zijn. En daarom horen zij niet uitsluitend "experts" te interviewen die Netanyahu de hand boven het hoofd houden.

[1] auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw
[2] yadvashem.org/about/former-cha

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Why are NONE of the Da Fano family members present in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? - while not only Giuseppina was sent to #Auschwitz?

More information about Giuseppina, her parents (Gioia Arditi and Achille Da Fano) and sisters (Annett, Elsa and Maria) can be found in, for example, digital-library.cdec.it/cdec-w or ancientfaces.com/surname/da-fa.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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According to oorlogsdodenoldenzaal.nl/perso, shortly after arrival in #Auschwitz with his parents Bernhard Melamed and Chuma Getzler, Isaak was murdered together with his mother.

Bernhard died in Auschwitz three months later.

Also in Gaza there are fathers who witness their wives and children being murdered or starved to death. Like was the case with Bernhard, the world does not seem to care.

For some reason the current Auschwitz maintainers know a little bit more about Isaak, as can be seen in the toot above, but they refrain from updating their online database (see the screenshot below from victims.auschwitz.org/victims/).

No place of birth. Although he was murdered in Auschwitz, even the field "fate" is empty.

Do the current Auschwitz maintainers really care about Holocaust victims?

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

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@hologram @CanadianCrone

Unfortunately the Auschwitz memorial has been occupied by Zionists, lead by Avner Shalev (a former high ranked IDF member, see auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw - partially shown in the screenshot below).

The current Auschwitz maintainers don't care about holocaust victims (Ivan Frank is not even in their database: victims.auschwitz.org/victims? and neither is his mother Marie: victims.auschwitz.org/victims?).

They grab pre-captivity pictures OF JEWS ONLY from all over the internet, ignoring requests on such websites not to dishonour those holocaust victims. You will not see any pityful pre-captivity photo's of non-Jews in their automated stream of spam which is littered with dehumanizing errors (like this one: mastodon.world/@auschwitzmuseu).

They want everybody to feel sorry for Jews living in Israel today, because:

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism.

(That's a literal excerpt from the resolution at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

The contrast with the statement they published when Russia attacked Ukraine cannot be bigger (for comparison, you can find screenshots of both at the bottom of infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).

Here is what Avner Shalev wrote in yadvashem.org/about/former-cha:

In the rest of the world as well, ostensibly objective observers have adopted this code, or uncritically parrot those who compare Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto, ignoring both historical details and context.

Language has power. The words we choose to use carry weight, and are meaningful. If we elect to label every event a "genocide," or equate every event with the Holocaust, then we detract from the real meaning of those words and reduce their ability to represent true horror.

Subsequently, when faced with a real incident of genocidal murder, people will be less likely ot [sic] be moved to act. If everything is genocide, nothing is genocide.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

P.S. My grandfather, born in 1900, was a Jew who lived in Arnhem when WWII started. He was sent to nazi labor camps and survived the war; his family did not. I am DISGUSTED by idiots who boost #Hasbara spams like the one at the top of this page (I block all of them).

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What did this little girl do wrong to not be mentioned in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? (*)?

But instead, to be disrespectfully tooted, boosted, tweeded, retweeded and facebooked on the internet?

The reason why this takes place is explained by comparing the two screenshots at the bottom of infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat (or by starting here: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).

Would you like your picture and PII to be abused for propaganda after your death?

(*) Sidenote: there are three women by the name "Eva Friedmann" (note: nn) in the Auschwitz victims database - all with identical "pictures". Pityful pre-captivitity pictures, of Jews only (!), are grabbed (without permission, by the current Zionist Auschwitz maintainers) from websites telling the real story about holocaust victims. They won't add them to their database, but will disrespectfully broadcast all over the internet, to be amplified by click-cattle.

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As is typical for Jewish Holocaust victims who the Auschwitz maintainers broadcast pre-captivity photos of (via multiple channels on the internet), Bertha Feldlinger is missing in victims.auschwitz.org/victims? - why is she *not* worth mentioning *there* but is she (IMO disrespectfully) tooted and boosted all over the 'net?

One of her brothers, Moise, *is* mentioned in victims.auschwitz.org/victims/, but without a photo. Also, what I've found elsewhere, he was murdered together with his sister, brothers and mother in August (I found various dates in August), not on 05-10-1942. The minimal information even appears to be wrong.

In findagrave.com/memorial/217544, one can read more about Bertha's family.

On 11 Mar 2023 "Lydia" added Betha's photo to that webpage. According to findagrave.com/user/profile/48, Lydia is "graduate student, currently working towards a history degree, with a special focus on WWII history."

At the bottom of that page, Lydia writes:

WITH THE ONGOING WARS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD...
please take a moment to remember some of the innocent children whose lives have been lost during the conflicts.

Children of Ukraine -> findagrave.com/virtual-cemeter

Children of Gaza -> findagrave.com/virtual-cemeter

Children of Israel -> findagrave.com/virtual-cemeter

Children of Syria -> findagrave.com/virtual-cemeter

Children of Libya - > findagrave.com/virtual-cemeter

The screenshot below was taken from somewhere in the second link. Note: Israels ethnic cleansing did not start on Oct. 7, 2023 - but in 1948.

A big thank you to Lydia. No single child deserves to suffer, in particular not by violence committed by people and/or from deliberate starvation.

Previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

@elmawardy : are you sure you want to discuss this with the current maintainers of Auschwitz?

You may want to compare their statement regarding Russia invading Ukraine (x.com/AuschwitzMuseum/status/1) with their Zionist resolution (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

Note, one of the Auschwitz Council's board members is a former high-ranked member of the Israeli Destruction forces (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw).

The current Auschwitz maintainers don't care about holocaust victims in their automated #hasbara spam stream (*), which is only intended to make people feel sorry for Israeli Jews.

(*) Murdered Jews with "human" pre-captivity photo's in their toots are usually missing in their online database, or listed with very incomplete data (infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat). In addition, the current maintainers make a lot of dehumanizing errors in their toots (infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).

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My grandfather was a jew. Mina Leuw's mothers maiden name was van Straten (see joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/18316). Like my grandfather's and mine. Mina may be a relative of me.

I am DISGUSTED by toots like the above from the current Auschwitz mainainers, who do not care about holocaust victims.

AT ALL.

Instead of updating their database (see screenshot or open victims.auschwitz.org/victims/), they abuse them for Hasbara. They literally facebook them as well. Without permission. This was in 2024: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=84 (she will probably be reposted later today).

One of the members of the Auschwitz council is Avner Shalev (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw), a former high-ranked IDF-officer.

Part of their resolution (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw) reads:

Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism.

Compare that to their statement regarding Ukraine in x.com/AuschwitzMuseum/status/1 (or look at them, side by side, in infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).

Previous toot: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat.

By tooting holocaust victims, they want you to feel sorry for Israeli's who live now. Israeli's, as I write this, have been blocking all humanitarian aid to Gaza since March 2.

Israeli's are today literally starving one million children in concentration camp Gaza (as well as bombing them).

I hate your world, and I loathe all the idiots who boost such dehumanizing spam.

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The information in the toot broadcasted by the current maintainers of KL Auschwitz seems to have been copied from geni.com/people/Lilian-Paulett.

Note: nobody with the name "Buschel" is even mentioned in victims.auschwitz.org/victims?.

However, according to kazernedossin.memorial/remembe "Paulette Liliane Buschel" was born exactly two years earlier in Berlin. In particular when combined with the text in kazernedossin.memorial/biograf, that story seems a lot more trustworthy.

Probably the current (Zionist) Auschwitz maintainers (auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw, see their statement at the bottom of auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschw) prefer better looking pictures (is it even real, or beautified using AI?).

Why? Compare the screenshots at the bottom of infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat (or see the previous toot in this series: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).