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Grr. 'Reach out'. The hill on which I will die. Just had to dig out the old "'Reach out' is passive-aggressive, insincere, impersonal and meaningless corporate jargon used to create artificial intimacy. I would be grateful if you could keep this conversation professional and refrain from 'reaching out' to me in future." response again. This time to #OctopusEnergy

From #OctopusEnergy :
Outgoing Octopus is moving from a fixed to a variable tariff. Once your tariff ends, we'll automatically switch you to the new variable version. 
How is the variable version of Outgoing Octopus different?
We’ll continue to pay 15p/kWh but this won't be fixed for 12 months so you won't need to renew each year.
The rate can rise and fall based on the wholesale price of energy, but we’ll give you plenty of notice if anything changes.

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Just to make it clear, this antenna isn’t connected directly to the smart meter - tampering with those is illegal.

Instead, it’s resting on the case - the dipole resonates with the radio signal, converting to an electrical signal which is transmitted to the other, which re-radiates it. This is unpowered.

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Following this and similar posts, I took a chance and made a passive dipole repeater antenna - it’s not complex or expensive. I think it cost about £30 in parts, and that’s only because I bought some expensive parts to save my time. It’s a coaxial cable, two dipole “centres” and some copper wire. A bit of soldering and insulation/weatherproofing and that was it.

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Just received an email from #OctopusEnergy titled 'Energy Prices will fall on July 1st'. Opened with excitement to find standing charge reduced by 1p per day, and no change to the per unit costs. As I have an EV and an ASHP I don't think that's really going to make a dent 😭
#EnergyPrices

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Having smart meters installed by Eon today, but little do they know I’m just about ready to switch to #OctopusEnergy because my bills have recently gone insane. Anyone else here with Octopus, are they as good as I hear? 🐙

Home electricity – 1 year update

(see https://plord.co.uk/b/8vd)

A year or so ago I presented How to reduce your electricity bill to zero talk (initially over on u3acommunities.org computing group) – it’s now been running for a year, so time to check progress.

General approach

After getting my solar + house battery installed, I’ve tried to reduce my electricity (£ and carbon footprint) as much as possible by :

  • Choosing a good tariff plan from energy supplier
  • Charge house battery when electricity is cheap
  • Use house battery to power house when electricity is expensive
  • Use solar to top-up house battery and sell excess back to the grid
  • Heat hot water tank when electricity is cheap
  • Use any special deals from energy supplier
  • Automate with Home Assistant

My specific

This is what I have :

  • Octopus intelligent go tariff for electricity import – so overnight I’m charged 7p/kWh. I also get the 7p/kWh when I plug my car in (at which point the whole house gets the rate). Octopus determines when exactly my car is charged based on my requirements. The daytime rate is currently 27.7p/kWh but thats less important since I rarely use it.
  • Octopus outgoing tariff for electricity export – this pays be 15p/kWh for anything I can export back to the grid
  • myenergi zappi, for car charging, and a myenergi libbi for house storage (with just a 5.1kWh battery)
  • 4.5kW peak solar facing south-east (so catches the morning sun)
  • Given the above, my main home automation rules via home assistant rules are :
    1. Charge battery when electricity is cheap (overnight + car charging)
    2. Heat hot water via immersion heater so that it’s up to temperature as the cheap rate finishes
    3. If the battery has any charge left at the end of the day, export to grid just before cheap rate starts
    4. During cheap rate, once battery is charged, export & re-charge
    5. Join octopus saving sessions (if its worth it)
    6. During cheap rates enable some ancillary devices (like tool battery charging, pond pump)
    7. Make use of free electricity when available
    8. Use a calendar to disable some automations when away

1 year results

Solar was pretty good this year. Expected was 3.97MWh actual 4.06MWh.

So this is what a typical day looks like :

Over 12 months, winter time costs but summer earns :

So over this period, the totals are :

  • 4,060kWh of solar
  • 7,048kWh imported, costing £563.43 + £220.17 standing charge = £783.60
  • 4,638kWh exported, earning £694.87
  • £26.69 of saving sessions and other “gimmics”
  • Giving a total cost of £62.04 / year, or £5.17 / month – so not quite zero as the talk predicted
  • Since house consumption was 6,469kWh over the year, with no solar/battery/smart tariffs that would have cost about £1,790.80/year
  • Estimated savings of £1,728.76 / year, or a return on investment in 4.9 years
  • Estimated CO2 savings 888kg/year (carbon negative in june/july/august)

This is for all household electricity use, which includes hot water and car charging. Excluded is car charging away from home. Currently, gas is used only during the winter months for heating.

Problems, risks & concerns

Over the last 12 months, there have been some issues :

  • Some automations failed – some due to me, others due to loosing connectivity with the myenergi servers. Means I saved slightly less than I could have done.
  • I’ve had some issues with the libbi battery – eg trip switches flipping and CT failing. Again, means I saved slightly less than I could have done whilst those issues were fixed.
  • Octopus “saving sessions” went national with much less rewards than the previous year. Mostly this meant participating in had a risk of loosing money, so most were skipped

Also, there are some concerns about this approach :

  • Tariffs can change … export and intelligent octopus go are now variable rates, which mean they could change at any time
  • Although the libbi battery warranty is 10 years with unlimited cycles, there is some concern that additional charge/discharge cycles could wear out the battery quicker
  • Changes in home assistant, home assistant plugins and octopus/myenergi API’s
  • Myenergi products are only controllable via the myenergi servers (no local API available), so should connection be lost, automations will fail

Next steps

  • Continue to monitor – seek out best tariffs and tweak automations
  • Consider alternatives to gas central heating – as well as further reducing carbon footprint, this would eliminate gas standing charge
    • air-to-water heat pump
    • electric boiler
    • air-to-air heat pump
  • Consider more solar
    • Adding some additional panels facing south west on our garage roof would be a benefit since it would catch the evening sun. Eg 2 panels would generate about 670kWh, or £100.50 (ROI about 8 years)
  • Consider more battery capacity
    • More battery capacity would reduce peak grid usage when the existing batter is depleted (mostly in the winter). However, the yearly cost of peak grid was only £90.78 so it doesn’t really seem worth it.

Savings Session

Today for 60 minutes -- Tuesday 22nd April 6-7pm UK Time

During the hour, you'll get 95 Octopoints for every unit of electricity you save compared to normal. This will be added to your account within 14 days.

Remember you MUST opt-in. Check your email or Octopus App to see if you area is included.

Things are different this year -- the savings a lower but there will be far more saving sessions available.

Read more
here

#OctopusEnergy #SavingSessions #SavingSession #Octopus

Octopus EnergyOctoplus Saving Sessions | Octopus EnergyGet paid to use less at peak times this winter, with Octoplus Saving Sessions.

Earth Hour Savings Session

Something a little different for the the next Saving Sessions.

This Saturday 22nd March, 8:30-9.30pm, switch off for Earth Hour in our extra special Saving Session to raise money for WWF (World Wide Fund for Nature).

You’ll be able to donate your earnings, and we’ll donate £40,000 too!

Here’s how to get involved:

1. Opt in to this extra special Saving Session online on in the App
2. Use less energy to show your support for Earth Hour
3. Choose to donate some extra Octopoints from your overall balance to support WWF’s mission
4. Share what you get up to on social media with
#SavingSessionsWWF

#OctopusEnergy #SavingSessions #SavingSession #Octopus #EarthHour