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"As our American sibling societies the American Geophysical Union (AGU), the Geological Society of America (GSA), the American Geosciences Institute (AGI) and other organisations take steps to protect their members and the invaluable research they are conducting, we want to firmly voice our support for them and all their members in this challenging time."

#EGU
#EuropeanGeosciencesUnion

ht @BaerbelW

egu.eu/news/1294/the-european-

European Geosciences Union (EGU)The European Geosciences Union expresses its support for its fellow American scientific societiesEGU stands behind our sibling American scientific societies, providing our support for them and all their members in the face of recent changes to US scientific policy.

🚨 New preprint 🚨

Hydrology and cave (and cave hydrology!) enthusiasts may enjoy this preprint just posted today for community review in the #EGU journal #HESS. Led by former #UNSW student, Christina Song, with @Andbaker and myself, we looked at recharge thresholds (amount of precipitation needed for recharge to occur in a cave), and how they changed after a fire.

egusphere.copernicus.org/prepr

The preprint is open now for community discussion, and will be accepting comments until 23 April.

egusphere.copernicus.orgRainfall recharge thresholds decrease after an intense fire over a near-surface cave at Wombeyan, AustraliaAbstract. Quantifying the amount of rainfall needed to generate groundwater recharge is important for the sustainable management of groundwater resources. Here, we quantify rainfall recharge thresholds using drip loggers situated in a near-surface cave: Wildman’s cave at Wombeyan, southeast Australia. In just over two years of monitoring, 42 potential recharge events were identified in the cave, approximately 4 m below land surface which comprises a 30° slope with 37 % bare rock. Recharge events occurred within 48 hours of rainfall. Using daily precipitation data, the median 48 h rainfall needed to generate recharge was 19.8 mm, without clear seasonal variability. An intense experimental fire experiment was conducted 18 months into the monitoring period: the median 48 h rainfall needed to generate recharge was 22.1 mm before the fire (n=22) and 16.4 mm after the fire (n=20), with the decrease in rainfall recharge most noticeable starting three months after the fire.. Rainfall recharge thresholds and number of potential recharge events at Wildman’s Cave are consistent with those published from other caves in water-limited Australia. At Wildman’s Cave, we infer that soil water storage, combined with the generation of overland flow over bare limestone surfaces is the pathway for water movement to the subsurface via fractures and that these determine the rainfall recharge threshold. Immediately after the fire, surface ash deposits initially retard overland flow, and after ash removal from the land surface, soil loss and damage decrease the available soil water storage capacity, leading to more efficient infiltration and a decreased rainfall recharge threshold.

Thinking of going to @EuroGeosciences GA2025? We have a session on 'Earth resilience, tipping points and human-Earth system interactions in the Anthropocene' - abstract deadline is Wednesday 15th Jan. 13:00 CET!

meetingorganizer.copernicus.or

Convened by Jonathan Donges along with Lan Wang Erlandsson, Ricarda Winkelmann, Nico Wunderling, & myself. Looking forward to this year's submissions!

meetingorganizer.copernicus.orgSession CL3.2.6
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@dhobern

I think it's another example of progress in fits and starts, maybe a secular trend resembling atmospheric temperature?

#EGU seems to have taken some lessons to heart and on board, durably.

As with the positive side-effects of energy transition on such things as pulmonary health, for academia remote access is surely a means to not waste talent, for inclusivity of those not even having access to a proper range of literature let alone the dosh for travel. An all-boats-up equalizer.

Its now 27 days past end of contract with nothing on the horizon. So here's a sales pitch thread of whats possible.

In 2017 I prototyped this #PyWPS service for massive point clouds: github.com/adamsteer/pointWPS

It relied on a STAC-like (STAC didn't exist yet) index, then #PDAL to do things - drawing data from multiple tiles in any shape.

It was presented at #EGU 2017 and #FOSS4G 2017.

Want this kind of vision using #opendata and #openstandards? Reach out.

Rahmstorf's talk at #EGU about his life's work, or rather, about one of the topics of his life's work and what others and him contributed to what is known of #AMOC today
youtu.be/HX7wAsdSE60

At 14:30min or so, he mentions that his Bachelor student just worked out (or maybe repeated the results successfully) what happens at the #ColdBlob. Why is it colder there, what's the mechanism?
So the AMOC slows down and brings less and less warm water into that subarctic gyre South of Greenland. But the cold blob doesn't look cold due to warm water getting released more than compared with the rest of the North #Atlantic . It looks colder because it releases less heat to the atmosphere, precisely bc less warm water manages to enter the gyre.

And near the American coast, the opposite is observed: more heat is released there, so it looks orange. Also due to AMOC slowdown. * End of his short mentioning of this explanation.

This next part is my processing the info.

I had read this also in his recent paper. And stared at it for minutes but didn't get it. It took listening & watching to comprehend what he meant.

Still unclear: obviously, lotsa warm water is around the gyre, just waiting to be pulled into the roundabout. "I bought the ticket, now let me in!"
Why No Entry? Or why very limited entry?
Hm. Gotta think some more about it.

Maybe all that warm water abhores the cold blob. A no-go zone, maybe.

Or the access is limited bc it's full already... and ... oh, and the queue exists bc South of Iceland, the AMOC is too slow in pushing warm salty water down into the abyss.
If it were faster, it would manage to pull in water from within the gyre as well.

So the gyre and its cold blob isn't really part of what drives AMOC.
It just swivels happily around itself?
And whether its cold-er than its surrounding waters or of the same salinity and warmth doesn't matter, it'll go round and round anyway.
AMOC also doesn't need the gyre. When AMOC is faster, the blob disappears. When it's slower, the blob happens.

Ah. Due to it being cold-er, it attracts clouds bursting overhead. So it rains there more often than elsewhere bc it's cold-er, and it's cold-er bc there's only limited entry for warm water, depending on how fast the region North of the gyre can push the salty water into the abyss.

Okay. That might be it. But Rahmstorf's explanations ended at *. The rest is only me, doing a #Tegtmeier , a working theory. Written down so it sticks and can later be compared to newly learned stuff.

We have virtual boots on the ground at this year's #EuropeanGeosciencesUnion General Assembly. Our volunteer Bärbel Winkler is remotely attending and presenting.

Bärbel's been keeping a journal of events, a digest of #EGU GA days. Her narrative includes a smorgasbord of links to fascinating information with a bent toward bettering #ScienceCommunications and combating #Misinformation and #Disinformation involving science and the public.

Scroll to wind and unwind days!

skepticalscience.com/egu24-per

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With the hazy nature of handling preprints in bibliographic databases (there is apparently no single agreed method of indication), we end up with weird logic.

For #EGU journals, the convention is apparently to leave the journal name blank. For somebody methodically scanning EGU pubs, this means repeatedly checking for the journal name to be resolved.

Without a journal name, provisional handling objectives become difficult.

And if the name is never backfilled on publication: fatal problem.